I wonder. Are these people who are so taken aback by a swear word in The Little Mermaid as offended when our fake president peppers his speeches with "hell"s, "damn"s, and "crap"s. Did they leave the room during the Access Hollywood tapes? Are they offended by his numerous adulturous affairs during his three marriages? Do they have anything to say about his bullying demeanor? Hypocrites all! They make me sick.
The Little Mermaid woman responded again. She claims they “take God’s name in vain” in The Little Mermaid”. Now I don’t know what her definition of taking god’s name in vain is, it could be OMG. In which case, yikes.
Mildred Plotka said: "The Little Mermaid woman responded again. She claims they “take God’s name in vain” in The Little Mermaid”. Now I don’t know what her definition of taking god’s name in vain is, it could be OMG. In which case, yikes."
You should also ask her if she's bothered by the fact that Ariel gives up her voice to make a boy fall in love with her. I think she might be offended by the wrong part of that story haha!
This isn't a theatre example but it still makes me laugh. I was leaving a Madonna concert a few years ago and the people behind us on the stairs were complaining about how inappropriate and offensive it was... um, it's Madonna?!
Right? She, and many other people discussed in this thread, seem out to find something “offensive” to object to in everything. She claims our local paper prints the number of swear words in each show, which I know isn’t true.
I get slightly annoyed when people swear loudly and repeatedly in public (not on stage). But I just walk away or ignore it.
I think with subscription theater many long term patrons just renew no matter what. They often have no clue on the show before hand. Our theater also offers an early renewal discount before the season is announced. I would never subscribe to a season before knowing the shows they’re doing.
Great Dame said: "This isn't a theatre example but it still makes me laugh. I was leaving a Madonna concert a few years ago and the people behind us on the stairs were complaining about how inappropriate and offensive it was... um, it's Madonna?!"
People actually pray at shows? Because of one bad word? They should go into the world of the new generation and see what's happening. Just observe what happens in a middle school or high school for a day. That's what they should be praying about.
Also Mildred Plotka, I, too, live in Seattle and I love seeing the shows at the 5th! I actually just saw Mamma Mia! recently and it has to be my favorite musical experience of all time! Granted, I don't have money to go to New York and see shows and I also don't have a lot of money to see plays in general.
ColeDogeGuy - I’m glad you enjoyed the show. The 5th can be pretty hit or miss with their self produced shows, but I’ve heard great things about their production of Mamma Mia. Now that their long time Artistic Director (who I’m not a huge fan of) has left, I think there’s going to be a big change in terms of quality. The guy taking over for him has directed some of my favorite shows I’ve seen at the 5th. Their new season is a bit tame, but I’m excited for Little Dancer and their new production of Urinetown.
I work in subscriber services and I can honestly say I've heard it all when it comes to some patrons opinions on things. I once had a woman come out of the first twenty-ish minutes of Cabaret shaking and in tears with her teenage daughter (embarrassed and trailing behind her) complaining that she was not aware that it was "this kind of a show" and "not right for my fourteen year old, we came because we love THE SONG (Cabaret)" and I once had a patron renewing her subscription who flat out said "I walked out of Color Purple once and I'll do it again".
I also watched many people walk out of Curious Incident and even had a group of women on their way out ask me how it ended.
It's kind of insane how much money people pay to see things and don't actually put forth the effort to read more into what they're seeing. It's also not like the subscription information is present or clear, because the brochures sent out give you information on each performance.
"Anybody that goes to the theater, I think we’re all misfits, so we ended up on stage or in the audience.” --- Patti LuPone.
Conservatives and liberals are both snowflakes, it just depends on what you're insulting. If you're insulting the right-wing homophobic sexist Christian religion, then Conservatives will be "offended". If you're insulting the right-wing homophobic sexist Islamic religion, then so called 'liberals' (who are really conservative wolves in sheep's clothing in any case) will be "offended". (And depending on how you insult it - you might also offend some people who will get machine guns and brutally murder you and all your colleagues. Though that's another story).
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
ClumsyDude15 said: "I work in subscriber services and I can honestly say I've heard it all when it comes to some patrons opinions on things. I once had a woman come out of the first twenty-ish minutes of Cabaret shaking and in tears with her teenage daughter (embarrassed and trailing behind her) complaining that she was not aware that it was "this kind of a show" and "not right for my fourteen year old, we came because we love THE SONG (Cabaret)" andI once had a patron renewing her subscription who flat out said "I walked out of Color Purple once and I'll do it again".
I also watched many people walk out of Curious Incident and even had a group of women on their way out ask me how it ended.
It's kind of insane how much money people pay to see things and don't actually put forth the effort to read more into what they're seeing. It's also not like the subscription information is present or clear, because the brochures sent out give you information on each performance."
Many theaters also print age recommendations and even go beyond that with educator guides. Doesn’t seem to prevent people who clearly are going to have a problem with it. Our local production of Cabaret also had many upset patrons who, only knowing the title song, thought it was going to be a feel good romp of a musical. And it was a tame production compared to the Roundabout staging. I’ve also seen people freak out over the content in A Chorus Line, thinking it was going to be an evening of “One” songs. In this day and age there really is no excuse for people to not do research if they are sensitive to subject matter. But then they’d have nothing to complain about.
bwayrose7 said: "Oh yes, they left absolutely no doubt as to their religious motivations. If I remember correctly, the girl's father was an evangelical pastor of some sort. Seeing the show wasn't a punishment for her; the abandoning her at the show with zero concern for how she would get home or access her medication was."
Evil monsters. Their sensitivity seems more important than the health and well-being of their daughter.
It's clear that many religious people are too unworldly to visit theatre, but I really think that it's our duty as a society to address this evil much more. It's not less inhumane if you convince yourself that god agrees with you. We need to involve those people in actual humanity much more.
"I think with subscription theater many long term patrons just renew no matter what."
Which benefits the theatre company, no? So those patrons are actually helping the theatre company survive, and possibly thrive. And maybe said patrons are just glad to support their theatre, no matter what. I also have a feeling the theatre company is very glad to receive their money.
"Our theater also offers an early renewal discount before the season is announced."
And the patrons who take advantage of that are also helping bring money into the theatre's coffers.
"I would never subscribe to a season before knowing the shows they’re doing."
That's your choice. But those who do are actually helping the theatre more than you are.
Mildred Plotka said: "The Little Mermaid woman responded again. She claims they “take God’s name in vain” in The Little Mermaid”. Now I don’t know what her definition of taking god’s name in vain is, it could be OMG. In which case, yikes."
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the only god or divine-ish character in The Little Mermaid the mer-king?
Yes. Little Mermaid is set in a vaguely Greco-Roman, Mediterranean setting which, despite being roughly Victorian in approximate time setting, still appears to be somewhat classically pagan (at least in terms of sea superstitions).
In Shakespeare's time, to avoid offending Christianity, you wouldn't mention it at all, and write plays set in classical paganism. Today, to avoid offending Christianity, you don't even mention classical paganism, it seems.
Great Dame said: "This isn't a theatre example but it still makes me laugh. I was leaving a Madonna concert a few years ago and the people behind us on the stairs were complaining about how inappropriate and offensive it was... um, it's Madonna?!"
I wonder if those people hadn't paid attention to Madonna and her concerts in like the past 18 years. I found that to be true when she toured a city she hadn't been in since the Virgin Tour and people were expecting like an aged pop star doing a farewell concert or a one-off nostalgia tour or something and probably thought she'd just perform her old hits. What they didn't expect was that Madonna's concerts are highly-produced, choreographed, expensive-looking productions with lots of themes with some of them controversial still, concepts, new songs, and Madonna cursing up a storm while being just as sexual as she ever was.
When I saw the most recent revival of Hair on broadway, a woman and two children (under 10) had front row center seats. Needless to say they didn't return after intermission. Not necessarily an example of conservative theatre patrons, but it most certainly made me laugh.
I have seen parents take their kids to inappropriate shows and leaving at intermission twice. Once I saw a local production of spring awakening and this family was sitting front rown, since I was sitting on stage I could see the mother tell the kids to cover their eyes during “my junk” and “I believe”. Then I saw a a local production of Heathers and there were two kids in front row who didn’t return after the intermission.
TravisOKC said: "When I saw the most recent revival of Hair on broadway, a woman and two children (under 10) had front row center seats. Needless to say they didn't return after intermission.Not necessarily an example of conservative theatre examples, but it most certainly made me laugh."
Hahaha I'll admit I find this pretty hilarious! And also, I'm super jealous you got to see the Hair revival!
Great Dame said: "TravisOKC said: "When I saw the most recent revival of Hair on broadway, a woman and two children (under 10) had front row center seats. Needless to say they didn't return after intermission.Not necessarily an example of conservative theatre examples, but it most certainly made me laugh."
Hahaha I'll admit I find this pretty hilarious! And also, I'm super jealous you got to see the Hair revival!"
I had front row seats at Hair a few times myself and I didn't know where to look for those 20 seconds at the end of Act 1...haha.
I'm guessing that mother had no clue there was nudity in it.