Swing Joined: 6/2/15
People on this message board didn't have a crystal ball to know that Williams had been out since last weekend & would continue to be out all this week. If they knew it, then the people selling tickets to the show should have known it too.
MemorableUserName said: "hork said: "Jesse Williams is hardly a Mercedes. If it weren't for Grey's Anatomy (in which he was easily the worst actor), he'd be no more of a selling point than his understudy."
"If it wasn't for the thing that made him a selling point, he wouldn't be a selling point!"
Well...yes. There are many talented people in this world who aren't stars. For the ones who are, there's usually something that gave them the opportunity to be. That's how it works.
My point is that he's a selling point because he's recognizable from this one TV series, and not because of his talent. In other words, to continue the metaphor, he's not a Mercedes, he's a semi-famous Volkswagen. He's Herbie the Love Bug.
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Dollypop said: "As if Telecharge has a crystal ball that can predict when an actor will get sick or become a father..
Geeze!"
Jesse Williams has been out since last Thursday. And it was known he would be out for at least 10 days.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
And if the poor guy has COVID, he could be out even longer
joevitus said: "None of these responses are really relevant to Raymondmc who is complaining about asking a specific question to which there was already a definitive answer and being told something false. Totally different than if he'd just bought a ticket without asking, or had been informed two actors would be out and bought a ticket anyway. It isn't about whether the understudies were good or ever better, or if last minute accidents sometimes happen. He was given false information and bought a ticket based on that false info."
Except there is no arguing point. If they had told the truth and one of the performers fell sick a second before going onstage, would he have been lied to? How would they know?
Even if the information given was accurate, there is no 100% guarantee, which is exactly what Raymondmc wanted and didn't get. You can be bummed out but not entitled.
Swing Joined: 6/2/15
You didn't read my message - Williams did NOT "fall sick a second before going on stage." He had called out BEFORE I called Telecharge to purchase my ticket and asked if anyone was out. If fans knew that, then ticket-sellers should have known it too.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
raymondnyc said: "You didn't read my message - Williams did NOT "fall sick a second before going on stage." He had called out BEFORE I called Telecharge to purchase my ticket and asked if anyone was out. If fans knew that, then ticket-sellers should have known it too."
Then let me suggest you get off your high horse and take over the management of Telecharge.
Swing Joined: 6/2/15
I'd like to suggest to you that you take a course in Reading Comprehension.
Peace.
There have been times where I went to the theatre and after having my ticket scanned, I realized a lead was out due to a Playbill slip or the cast board. I was able to go out the box office and get a refund since the show had not started. I always check the cast board and my Playbill once I get to the theatre. Sometimes I even ask at the box office once I get to the theatre.
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Is it confirmed he will be out of the show for a while or just a rumour?
blaxx said: "joevitus said: "None of these responses are really relevant to Raymondmc who is complaining about asking a specific question to which there was already a definitive answer and being told something false. Totally different than if he'd just bought a ticket without asking, or had been informed two actors would be out and bought a ticket anyway. It isn't about whether the understudies were good or ever better, or if last minute accidents sometimes happen. He was given false information and bought a ticket based on that false info."
Except there is no arguing point. If they had told the truth and one of the performers fell sick a second before going onstage, would he have been lied to? How would they know?
Even if the information given was accurate, there is no 100% guarantee, which is exactly what Raymondmc wanted and didn't get. You can be bummed out but not entitled."
I never said he was "lied to," and the person may honestly not have known. But they SHOULD have known, since it was already old news: not only was it known of fan sites, but wasn't even something that only happened just that day.
The bottom line is, being given the wrong information and buying tickets based on that wrong information is a fair complaint. Had the person at Telecharge said those was out and so a ticket wasn't bought and it turned out the performers were on after all, and he missed it, would he have the same reason to complain? Absolutely. Giving false information, intentionally or not, which leads to an unhappy situation is totally legitimate grounds for complaint.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
raymondnyc said: "I'd like to suggest to you that you take a course in Reading Comprehension.
Peace."
I have an MA in Victorian Literature and taught English on both the high school and college levels, for 36 years so my reading comprehension skills are fairly sharp, thank you very much.
I think you should learn to cite your sources because any ninny can post a rumor on a message board and an even greater ninny can believe it.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
raymondnyc said: "You didn't read my message - Williams did NOT "fall sick a second before going on stage." He had called out BEFORE I called Telecharge to purchase my ticket and asked if anyone was out. If fans knew that, then ticket-sellers should have known it too."
This is correct. The first day if his absence, the replacement inserts were already out when the ushers arrived for work, so it was known at least 90 minutes before performance time.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
The greater question is why raymongnyc chose to purchase his ticket via Telecharge on the day of performance. He could have bought it at the box office that day, saved the service charges and gotten the information he wanted to hear..
What's the sound of one person clapping, me? Basically that's what happened when a weird lag from the blackout into intermission and house lights going up meant only me and maybe two other people knew it was time to applaud....
Thanks to some decent discounts, was able to get fifth row aisle for $125 including fees (yes, I bought online, quelle horreur...) Saw the show at the Hayes and like many have said, the show transferred seamlessly into the Schoenfeld. Maybe because it's been a minute, but Heck is fantastic as Kippy, brought kind of an earthy quality that I thought was missing from otherwise excellent Patrick J. Adams. Ferguson is consistently great in that role, and pleasant to see Williams is really embracing the sensitivity in the role, it really makes for a compelling version of the character. Rest of the cast is great, of course Oberholtzer continues to amaze, how he can sustain that night after night, I'll never know. Did they even have a day off since there was the added Monday show?
The set itself is still a bit underwhelming. That said, the water pressure was quite fine from the fifth row aisle. Gasp-inducing, I might say.
The show is in great shape and unlike most shows, they're actually offering discounts, so it was great to be able to book it in advance. The Yondr thing really needs to be figured out though, it's far from seamless especially now that it's winter so they're doing in the lobby. Bless them for trying though. Was glad to notice that on the way out, I could unlock in the basement went I went to the restroom after the show.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
everythingtaboo said: "The show is in great shape and unlike most shows, they're actually offering discounts, so it was great to be able to book it in advance.
It takes a lot if comps to even fill half the house. What's surprising is they waited until the show purebred befits lowering ticket prices and offering discounts.
The Yondr thing really needs to be figured out though, it's far from seamless especially now that it's winter so they're doing in the lobby.
At the Schoenfeld, they have always done it in the lobby.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
Have any others who've gotted their tickets for the play through TDF been seated in the 1st row?
Tonight’s performance is cancelled due to illness.
Performances are expected to resume tomorrow afternoon.
With their ticket sales being so low, is there a chance they might close after New Years instead of Feb 5? I’m
EDSOSLO858 said: "Tonight’s performance is cancelled due to illness.
Performances are expected to resume tomorrow afternoon."
Interesting that they opted to cancel so early. I'd assume it's not COVID then, or without multiple u/s, could just be a case of two actors being out that require the same understudy.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
The staff was notified last night, so it's curious they took so long to announce.
One of the actors had a planned absence for today and tomorrow, but his understudy tested positive for Covid. It's not clear if the understudy will be cleared for tomorrow (which I believe is the tenth day for him), or if they are trying to rehearse someone else. They are operating under the presumption performances will resume, but they won't make the decision until tomorrow.
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Ryan Broussard went on as Darren at the 2pm performance today.
I’m assuming he returned to the company for the occasion as he isn’t listed in the Playbill, but IBDB mentions him as u/s Darren for the run at 2nd Stage. Does anyone know if he went on during that season?
He did a wonderful job today. If it was his first performance, you wouldn’t have known it. At the end of the bows, the cast turned to him and applauded/jumped up and down in support, etc, which had the audience applaud and cheer in a fresh wave. Jesse then pulled him in for a strong hug.
He was also well-supported by the four other understudies who sat in the orchestra and watched the show.
He really saved the day and made it look totally seamless.
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BorisTomashevsky said: "Ryan Broussard went on as Darren at the 2pm performance today.
I’m assuming he returned to the company for the occasion as he isn’t listed in the Playbill, but IBDB mentions him as u/s Darren for the run at 2nd Stage. Does anyone know if he went on during that season?"
He went on as Davey during the first run, but not as Darren.
Understudies truly are the unsung heroes of Broadway. So happy he delivered a flawless performance and that the cast recognized it and celebrated the achievement.
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BorisTomashevsky said: "Ryan Broussard went on as Darren at the 2pm performance today.
He really saved the day and made it look totally seamless."
Thank you for the tip. I saw the show during previews of the first run and was unimpressed, but after all the raves I figured maybe I'd revisit it. I love the performances where someone goes on who usually doesn't--not just an understudy, but a really rare case-- so this seemed like a good time.
Yes, it was great. Maybe I should have seen it later in the first run when they'd had more time to settle in, but this was much better than I remembered. I didn't care for Ferguson the first time, but didn't really have any issues with him now. I originally thought Oberholtzer was weak and too exaggerated in the first act before letting it rip in the second, but the performance worked better from start to finish here, and he may have been even stronger in the final scene.
I really liked Adams in the first run and thought he was one of the strong points...but yeah, Heck is stronger in the role. I also thought Broussard was stronger than Williams, who was too opaque and unknowable. Broussard showed more vulnerability, but it also just felt like there was clearly more going on in his Darren than in Williams's. He didn't seem completely comfortable in the shower confrontation, which lacked some ferocity, but the scene still worked better. Williams came across as so much older than Oberholtzer the balance of power seemed off. Having two actors who present closer to the same age just makes it play better.
I very much enjoyed it and am glad I got to see it with this cast. (I would say see it with Broussard, but based in Ferguson's Instagram, he literally flew in just for the day to save the show. These may be his only two performances in the role. Something special to see.)
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