ryankon said: "There is a serious problem with Tootsie that people are glossing over: it's distressingly retro in that this supposedly feminist tale is told thru a man's eyes. Why are we so dependent on men to give us our feminist awakening? At the time the film was made this was a more forgivable sin--but in 2018 it's bothersome. Very. All the good intentions in the world don't erase the fact that Tootsie relies on a man to give us our feminist awakening. That's not cool...it just reinforces the fact that it's a man's world. It's almost an ugly form of noblesse oblige."
I haven't seen the musical yet, but you also refer to the film... The film is not a feminist tale. More than anything, it is about being an actor in New York City. A male actor in New York. Anything that Michael learns about women in the movie version comes purely out of his primary need: to be a working actor.
His discoveries about what it's like to be a woman are strictly coincidental; his primary focus is NOT about exploring what it's like to be a woman. His focus is on acting only.
If he had decided that auditioning as a dog would get him work, the film would not be an "animal rights" movie. It would still be about an actor who cares more for his craft than anything else. Because of THAT first love, and THAT passion, he ultimately evolves.
Even the "feminist" stances in the film are meant for humor - not to educate an audience. Best example? When Jeff comes home and finds Michael/Dorothy fending off Van Horn's advances. After Van Horn leaves, Jeff calls Michael a slut and Michael responds with a comment about rape. In the 80s, that situation and the line were humorous -- very different now, though.
Tootsie is about a male actor who delves so deeply into his craft and his character that his work ultimately informs his personal life. Notice that it's specifically his life that receives the benefit of learning - not ours as the audience, nor the lives of the female characters in the movie.
In the movie, when Julie tells Dorothy that she's been so inspirational in her life (at the point in the plot where she's going to tell Ron that it's over between them), Dorothy/Michael freaks out a bit, and tells her she mustn't idolize her(/him) in that way. He freaks out because he knows that he is a "false idol", and it makes him very uncomfortable that Julie would put him on a pedestal.
BUT... it's Julie who made that decision on her own. Dorothy never suggested or advised her to do so. The only person Dorothy does advise is Ron. She tells him "I know you better than you think I do" (or something to that effect). The only time(s) Dorothy gives advice, or attempts to "teach a lesson", it is, in reality, a man speaking to another man.
Updated On: 9/18/18 at 02:09 AM