I believe the reason they like to recycle so much is because Telsey (The casting agents for the show) like to keep it in the family as much as possible.
And yea, Teal has proven that she doesnt have the best vocal techniques...if you *watch* her in the role...esp if your able to see her VERY upclose, you can tell just by her vowel formations that she is not singing properly, and the way her veins pop out, her limited breath support among other things...Idk...this will be interesting.
"Life in theater is give and take...but you need to be ready to give more then you take..."
I don't see what the huge deal. First, hopefully Teal took her time off to, I don't know, train and make sure her voice wasn't destroyed forever. Second, god forbid another actress gets to make her broadway debut. And I do agree with you that it would be nice to have a great new Elphaba like Mandy but this time that's not happening. Let Teal do what she can do. I am excited for her and super excited for Kyle Dean.
By the way, Teal was never out and was always in top shape when I saw her in L.A. I must have been lucky. Congratulations and good luck to her.
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Geez, chill out people--and I'm looking at you, adamgreer. It is extremely common that replacement cast members in a long-running Broadway show will have previously played their parts in the national tour. It's considered a promotion. The producers were happy with their work and so they get to go to Broadway. Seems fair to me.
My question is, why isn't Mandy Gonzalez staying with the show? It hasn't even been a year, and I can't imagine she's gotten any offer better than playing the most coveted role on Broadway. Was this her decision, or did the producers "not renew her contract" aka let her go?
Elphabas rarely perform the role over a year anymore.
Of recent Elphabas
Dee Roscioli: Jul 21, 2009 - Mar 21, 2010 Nicole Parker: Jan 16, 2009- Jul 19, 2009 Marcie Dodd: Nov 11, 2008 - Jan 11, 2009 Kerry Ellis: Jun 17, 2008 - Nov 9, 2008 Stephanie J. Block: Oct 7, 2007- Jun 15, 2008
Updated On: 12/20/10 at 06:01 PM
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^Okay even I have to say that statement is kinda out there. Teal does bring alot to the role that obviously got her the part...even though I wish they went another way, she has the part for some reason hahaha
And I am thinking that maybe Mandy is ready to move on. Also this role is pretty challenging so maybe she knows that she should leave (although I and many more wish she stayed longer
"Life in theater is give and take...but you need to be ready to give more then you take..."
I never saw her as Elphaba but from what I've heard, Saycon Sengbloh was an EXCELLENT Elphaba when she was a s/b for a few years....Should bring her back.
Considering her final performance in San Fransisco was repulsive, I'm not sure Teal is a good judge in her vocal capabilities. Any sane being would have stepped aside instead of trying to fulfill some future nostalgia. Considering, she failed anyway!
I really hope she got her act together. And geez people, Mandy is a great performer, but I don't hold her in such high regard with Wicked. I personally don't think Wicked's had a GREAT Elphaba since SJB left the production.
Updated On: 12/20/10 at 07:05 PM
Geez, chill out people--and I'm looking at you, adamgreer.
I'm quite calm, but thanks for your concern.
The producers were happy with their work and so they get to go to Broadway. Seems fair to me.
One cannot be happy with a performer who missed as often as Teal did. They did it because she's cheap and will cost them a heck of a lot less money than someone like Mandy.
My question is, why isn't Mandy Gonzalez staying with the show? It hasn't even been a year, and I can't imagine she's gotten any offer better than playing the most coveted role on Broadway. Was this her decision, or did the producers "not renew her contract" aka let her go?
Other than Idina, the only Elphaba to stay a full year was Shoshana Bean, the first replacement.
Well, I've decided to see "Wicked" on Broadway for the second time (first time was on March 15, 2006. I'm seeing it again on March 15, 2010...mostly for K.D.M. This time, I got the cheapest ticket (rear mezzanine). I've also seen the touring show 3 times. TheatreDiva... I agree with you. Best of luck to Miss Wicks. from RC in Austin, Texas... where it's 69 F. We need some rain already!
"Noel [Coward] and I were in Paris once. Adjoining rooms, of course. One night, I felt mischievous, so I knocked on Noel's door, and he asked, 'Who is it?' I lowered my voice and said 'Hotel detective. Have you got a gentleman in your room?' He answered, 'Just a minute, I'll ask him.'" (Beatrice Lillie)
It's bitching because you don't know how she will perform. If you go to see her live, and don't like the show, come back and bitch. But don't convict her before she sets foot on stage.
Many former Elphabas have had voice issues. It has even been said by a past, beloved Elphaba that the part is one of the most vocally irresponsibly written characters in musical theater. Ms. Gonzales sings at least some of the numbers a key lower, I believe, because she cannot handle the vocals as written.
It's bitching because you don't know how she will perform. If you go to see her live, and don't like the show, come back and bitch. But don't convict her before she sets foot on stage.
She has already had TWO runs, both of which weren't all that good. Missing performances left & right. Vocal problems.
You mean people here don't want that? I could have sworn they did by all of the positive comments in the thread.
Summary: She had her chance, twice actually, & blew it both times.
Ms. Gonzales sings at least some of the numbers a key lower, I believe, because she cannot handle the vocals as written.
I have to correct that statement because it simply isn't true. Ms. Gonzalez doesn't sing "some" of the numbers in a lower key. She sings two notes in No Good Deed lower (which is, admittedly, her weakest number, and kind of disappointing). However, she takes the end of Defying Gravity up the octave and sings the last part at a higher key than any other Elphaba. The only other Elphaba song that has ever been changed is As Long As You're Mine, which has been in a lower key since Joey McIntyre was in the cast (and was never raised back up after he left).
I actually though Mandy's NGD was one of the strongest...no flashy riffs just pure emotion...but thats my opinion hehe
But...no Elphaba has ever had a song lowered for them...the creative team wouldnt hire them if their range was not sufficient enough for the role...which is why I am wondering why they hired Teal. FanofGreen...its really not bitching...you can look back at her LA and SF run...towards the end of her LA run she was missing a lot of shows...then she missed a lot at the start of the SF production (and I mean A LOT) then she had to leave for several months putting the entire production into a crisis with having to fly several girls out to standby while Vicki Noon basically got a uncredited promotion for that time. And even after she returned...her voice was noticeably different and she rarely was able to do a full week of performances. Will she prove us wrong when she comes to Broadway? Maybe...do we have a reason to be a little skeptical...hell yes.
"Life in theater is give and take...but you need to be ready to give more then you take..."
Maybe it's just going to be a very short run -- a couple of months like Marcie had before she left for the 2nd tour lead.
Other than that, I can't imagine what they're thinking since she was out for months in San Francisco and was never able to return full time. Why should this be different, even after being out for a while again. Doing that role 8 times a week is tough on anyone's voice, but with so many problems it seems unlikel she'll be able to do that schedule for very long.
Might be a good opportunity for Jennifer DiNoia to get a lot of performance time.