#76
Posted: 12/24/07 at 10:22am
BK--
You came here this time last year and disputed whether Dreamgirls had reached 100 million. You said the studios lie or inflate numbers. You said let's examine it later on and see if they still claim it made 100 million. Well, let's. It did.
Actually, here is your quote, posted on 2/27/07:
"The fact that Dreamgirls purportedly did 100 mil is nice - it just doesn't mean it's a success financially - and I think at the end of this year, you will find that the film did not, in fact, do 100 mil domestically."
You were wrong. Unless you still want to cling to that thought... it's a conspiracy, it's a lie, blah blah, sure.
Plenty of movies do not make back their entire costs in the theater. A lot does come down to DVD. This is not 1975, when the theatre was the only way to see a movie. There's also the foreign markets, which bring in money. Also, look at all the "award-worthy" movies this season. Most of them cannot be considered main-stream hits.
You see, there is a huge difference between the family-friendly Golden Compass tanking (budget 180 million, estimated final US gross maybe 60 million)and Sweeney Todd, an artsy R-rated slasher musical, only making back its budget. Which it will. I always said it would make its budget back, and I never predicted a gross of 100 million. (See my post on 11/30/07.)
Ok, so let's play devil's advocate and say Dreamworks will rue the day it decided to make this film. Still unlikely. There are incentives for the film company just in getting nominations and awards. There go far beyond the movie in question, but help the studio build prestige and secure other ambitious movies in the future.
And children walking out? Wow that is a problem... and it has nothing to do with it being a musical. Instead, it seems the studio must have somehow forgotten to put the R rating on all the ads. Truthfully, it serves those kids and parents right. It's not a kid's movie. And how many of these reports did anyone actually witness? Is this just crap people are saying? I love people who come on here, people who don't show their real faces, and ask us to believe them as they tell us all this fascinating info they saw or heard. In my screening, which was full of all different people, a few people did walk out--TO PEE. I actually sat there and watched each one come back in, because I too am interested in stuff like that (not peeing, but walkouts).
What I heard (and that is my real face in my profile) is a lot of my coworkers and friends saying they planned to see the movie at some point by the New Year. Again, let us understand how adults see films. They don't normally run out on the busiest weekend of the year. The three main movies that beat Sweeney were family-friendly or existing hits. Is anyone suprised? (Charlie Wilson is iffy because it did not beat Sweeney on a per-theatre basis.)
I am always shocked by the amount of people who do not have the ability to analyze data or think logically to combine different pieces of information to come up with a reasonable opinion.
And I don't know why some people who profess like this movie are already hoping to nail it into the coffin. Pretty sad. BK, have you even seen the movie? Just wondering.
You came here this time last year and disputed whether Dreamgirls had reached 100 million. You said the studios lie or inflate numbers. You said let's examine it later on and see if they still claim it made 100 million. Well, let's. It did.
Actually, here is your quote, posted on 2/27/07:
"The fact that Dreamgirls purportedly did 100 mil is nice - it just doesn't mean it's a success financially - and I think at the end of this year, you will find that the film did not, in fact, do 100 mil domestically."
You were wrong. Unless you still want to cling to that thought... it's a conspiracy, it's a lie, blah blah, sure.
Plenty of movies do not make back their entire costs in the theater. A lot does come down to DVD. This is not 1975, when the theatre was the only way to see a movie. There's also the foreign markets, which bring in money. Also, look at all the "award-worthy" movies this season. Most of them cannot be considered main-stream hits.
You see, there is a huge difference between the family-friendly Golden Compass tanking (budget 180 million, estimated final US gross maybe 60 million)and Sweeney Todd, an artsy R-rated slasher musical, only making back its budget. Which it will. I always said it would make its budget back, and I never predicted a gross of 100 million. (See my post on 11/30/07.)
Ok, so let's play devil's advocate and say Dreamworks will rue the day it decided to make this film. Still unlikely. There are incentives for the film company just in getting nominations and awards. There go far beyond the movie in question, but help the studio build prestige and secure other ambitious movies in the future.
And children walking out? Wow that is a problem... and it has nothing to do with it being a musical. Instead, it seems the studio must have somehow forgotten to put the R rating on all the ads. Truthfully, it serves those kids and parents right. It's not a kid's movie. And how many of these reports did anyone actually witness? Is this just crap people are saying? I love people who come on here, people who don't show their real faces, and ask us to believe them as they tell us all this fascinating info they saw or heard. In my screening, which was full of all different people, a few people did walk out--TO PEE. I actually sat there and watched each one come back in, because I too am interested in stuff like that (not peeing, but walkouts).
What I heard (and that is my real face in my profile) is a lot of my coworkers and friends saying they planned to see the movie at some point by the New Year. Again, let us understand how adults see films. They don't normally run out on the busiest weekend of the year. The three main movies that beat Sweeney were family-friendly or existing hits. Is anyone suprised? (Charlie Wilson is iffy because it did not beat Sweeney on a per-theatre basis.)
I am always shocked by the amount of people who do not have the ability to analyze data or think logically to combine different pieces of information to come up with a reasonable opinion.
And I don't know why some people who profess like this movie are already hoping to nail it into the coffin. Pretty sad. BK, have you even seen the movie? Just wondering.
