The return of Spacey

behindthescenes2 said: "https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/14/arts/kevin-spacey-anonymous-accuser.html

So as this river runs its course, there will probably be no doubt that he will eventually return to perform despite those who wish it not to be. Considering ALL of the unscrupulous people that still work in theater and media, ie. producers, directors, costume designers, set designers, make up and hair designers, union supervisors, and yes the actors, to punish one,should be topunish all. You would think that would happen, and yet, if you have worked in this industry as long as I have (30 plus) you know that will never be the case, especially having personally witnessed the tasks requested of others and me who were in powerto do things that have have nothing to do with the job you were hired for, but ifrefused, there would be no job. Rudin won't disappear, either and neither will the theater owners, who have yet to bring backstage areas up to sufficient codes to protect the workers,and the directors, and producers and union supervisors who will continue to behave in this manner. Enlightenment in regards tofor a lack of better term, "being woke," is a phase a momentary pause. Money and the power it brings will always have its way, especially when objections or accusations arepositioned to be he said/he said, she said/he said/ and all the pronouns that can be usedin between.


Was there a point in there somewhere? If so I certainly couldn’t find it.

Tom5 said: "Mr. Spacey was the artistic director of The Old Vic for a decade, occasionally acting in some of their productions. If many stories from the actors under and totally dependent of him are to be believed byhe did not always use his power for good."

No sh*t Sherlock.

He won’t ever act again. He’s poison and no one wants to see him on stage or screen anymore. And if some tried to cast him, it will cause such outrage that they will have to drop him.

Dolly80 said: "He won’t ever act again."

I personally would never pay to see him act again, BUT:

There's at least one slimey, prominent Broadway producer who had data polled with "prolific New York theatergoers" about, among other things, actors who have been cancelled, and Spacey is someone who they would overwhelmingly like to see onstage. The belief is that (a) Spacey could be hired cheap and would still be a ticket draw in limited-engagement small-cast plays, and (b) Spacey was never as wealthy as some of these other cancelled men and he will need to work. (And as we've seen from his bat**** Christmas Eve videos, he doesn't intend to fully disappear from the public spotlight.)

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Dolly80 said: "He won’t ever act again."

I personally would never pay to see him act again, BUT:

There's at least one slimey, prominent Broadway producer who had data polled with "prolific New York theatergoers" about, among other things, actors who have been cancelled, and Spacey is someone who they would overwhelmingly like to see onstage. The belief is that (a)Spacey could be hired cheap and would still be a ticketdraw inlimited-engagement small-cast plays, and (b) Spacey was never as wealthy as some of these other cancelled men and he willneedto work. (And as we've seen from his bat**** Christmas Eve videos, he doesn't intend to fully disappear from the public spotlight.)"

Do you really believe that? I don't for a second. He is a predator who took advantage of people a lot younger than he. I actually wonder whether he will end up in jail before this is all over, a la Bill Cosby. It took a long, long time for Bill Cosby to be tried and convicted.

From what I have read, his crimes were: supposedly lifting up and putting down a 14 year actor in the 80s without any sort of forced sexual assault; also he hit on a bunch of straight guys. No, I don't think he is the demon that the media has portrayed him to be.

If he wants to work again, he will have to start by working for cheap (if anyone will hire him, which I do find doubtful despite what I shared above). But working for cheap can also mean union minumum salary + backend points, so his payday depends on how much of a draw he would be.

Let's also remember that internet figures about an actor's net worth are always wildly off.

I love that you think Kevin Spacey is somehow hard up or NEEDS to work because he can't pay his gas bill or some sh*t.

He was in 65 episodes of House of Cards. He made $500k per episode every single episode so that's over $30 million right there. And the fact that for 25 years made between $2 - $6 million for pretty much every film he did......yeah no. The internet is correct and you are not.

Kevin is a wealthy white man in America. He will be just fine forever.

Well, since you don't know him and knew what I meant....everything else is moot.

Jarethan wrote, in part: "Do you really believe that? I don't for a second. Heis a predator who took advantage of people a lot younger than he. I actually wonder whether he will end up in jail before this is all over, a la Bill Cosby. It took a long, long time for Bill Cosby to be tried and convicted."

Actually, the Philly district attorney did seek a prosecution for criminal rape, but claimed there wasn't sufficient evidence to charge him w/rape of a Temple Univ Phs Ed teacher. Cosby gave graduation speeches every year b/c he graduated from Temple and was a beloved Philly icon.

So the woman sued him for $. He settled that case and admitted in a deposition that he gave her date drugs. But before admitting and settling the case, the District Atty agreed that if Cosby settled the civil case for $ then the DA WOULD NOT use the evidence or admissions from the civil case against him in another criminal prosecution. So Cosby settled.

Another DA was elected and realized that the previous DA never granted that promise in solid agreement. The blame ultimately fell on Cosby's attorney at the time. So the new DA attempted to bring criminal charges. Cosby's new attorneys cried foul saying he only settled for $ because the previous DA promised never to seek a criminal trial.

That dispute went through the courts in Pennsylvania where various judges ruled that Cosby could be charged because the original agreement was screwed up. So the criminal trial went forward and he was convicted. It's back in the courts on appeal.

But to say he can just comfortably live for the rest of your life, you don't know his situation. I'm not defending him, I don't care, but nothing that's been said seems to be that crazy. My grandmother - of his generation - was married at 16. So a 20 something in a relationship with a teen .. doesn't seem like some weird "monster" attitude... But the internet is what it is.

I do not think he will return to acting. Such a shame for he was one of the most talented actors of his generation. I wonder if John Barrowman will receive the same fate. Maybe not since he does not have the fame Spacey has.