Tonight's performance of ALADDIN cancelled due to breakthrough COVID cases — Page 5

Broadwaybuff17 said: "Got it! So your in the camp that’s just gonna be scared the rest of your life, or until cnn tells you basically what im saying now , at a later point in time to make it all ok."

Nowhere in my comment did I say that. I go to theatre, I live my life, and I’m not “scared”. I’m behaving responsibly, listening to the experts, and I simply answered your incredibly ignorant question.

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The part I think is good is recognizing that, if you're vaccinated, you are by vast statistical amounts not in a position to have anything to worry about. Even with the delta variant, most vaccinated people are still not in any danger of hospitalization or death, and very unlikely to contract COVID to begin with--these facts are in keeping with science.

And those who are immunocompromised or elderly can get boosters free and easily. As far as I can tell, despite the 8 month waiting period post second vaccination, lots of clinics are dispensing them immediately to anyone who asks.

I think people who are in compromised positions need to be more careful for themselves, but I don't think society in general needs to go on being as overly cautious as it currently is.

To my mind, the big question about COVID safety protocols specifically in relation to theatrical practices is related to HIV. There is probably a much greater statistical incidence of people living with HIV in this profession than in many others, so greater caution is warranted. But I also suspect, as PrEP is common and PrEP is doing a great job of reducing the percentage of HIV infections, this may not always be the case. At this point, though, greater safety measures for theater professionals strike me as a reasonable precaution.

@joe I suspected that's what you were going to say. The problem is, the clown didn't say that. They said that productions should stop testing and move on. That's dangerous anti-science. Living our lives (and not in fear) is essential. (A long time ago I quoted someone saying that we should not be living fearing covid, we should be living respecting it. Being responsible is essential. Not being stupid is also essential. Letting theatres become super spreaders is stupid. I think you know what's good; I just don't think you can glean that from bozo.

The thing about breakthrough infections is that very often the person infected has no idea he or she is infected. It happened to me -- after an awful hospital stay with C diff I had to return to work and got a PCR test and found out I was positive. The only symptoms I had were a headache and scratchy throat and a bit of inflamed lymph nodes. Thankfully, my parents didn't get it. But my point is I had no idea I had covid. If you were unvaccinated and around me, I could have easily spread it.

poisonivy2 said: "The thing about breakthrough infections is that very often the person infected has no idea he or she is infected. It happened to me -- after an awful hospital stay with C diff I had to return to work and got a PCR test and found out I was positive. The only symptoms I had were a headache and scratchy throat and a bit of inflamed lymph nodes. Thankfully, my parents didn't get it. But my point is I had no idea I had covid. If you were unvaccinated and around me, I could have easily spread it."

Exactly. My symptoms hit on a Monday night. I took a shower late at night and when I got out it dawned on me that I didn't smell my shower gel. (Which is heavily scented). I kinda blew it off on my allergies, which were acting up at the time. The next morning, same thing. On a call with a family member I asked if their allergies were acting up and they were like "Big time". So I just figured that is what it was. But then I realized I wasn't having the normal allergy reactions. Everything pretty much felt fine but I realized that there was nothing in my nose. It was completely dry. I knew something wasn't right. I was not able to get tested until 2 days later. (Very long lines of parents with young kids getting tested for school) By the time I got tested, my sense of smell had mostly returned the night before. The day after I got tested it had returned completely. Outside of going for the test I had been inside. The state health department called me the day after I got my result. They told me that since I had been in, I had pretty much done my quarantine period which they said, was 7 to 10 days. I just did the 10. (Really weird thing, my sense of smell seems to be heightened now/better) You just have to be really attentive and in tune with your body. As I stated elsewhere, the sense of smell was the only thing that tipped me off. The day my results came in, my body felt like it was fighting off a cold all over for a while. The Medical person told me that was the vaccine doing its job. I won't lie, I was pretty scared and I am still trying to get used to being around people in an enclosed space.

I saw a comment earlier saying something about being vaccinated and moving on and if you are vaccinated, why are you afraid of Covid. No, just no on that one. That person is woefully uninformed and reminds me of a few people I know of that just stopped listening to information and updates after they told us we can take our masks off early in the summer if we were vaccinated. They don't want to hear the truth about what is going on. And they are becoming part of the problem. Just my opinion.

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"I saw a comment earlier saying something about being vaccinated and moving on and if you are vaccinated, why are you afraid of Covid. No, just no on that one. That person is woefully uninformed and reminds me of a few people I know of that just stopped listening to information and updates after they told us we can take our masks off early in the summer if we were vaccinated. "

IMO this is not complicated. If you get the vaccine it lowers the odds on getting the virus and possibly lessens the symptoms if you do catch it. Of course no vaccine or shot is perfect just like getting a flu shot does not totally prevent you from getting the flu, it hopefully lessens your symptoms. Myself and immediate family all got COVID and were vaccinated. Personally, I had bad headache for a couple of days and cold symptoms. In a week, all of us were better. I wear a mask only indoors.

@uncageg - I’ve been trying to be safe here in Oklahoma. Lost my contract job gigs in March 2020 due to the pandemic. (They’re supposedly coming back eventually) That has allowed me to stay home alone 90+% of the time.

I still try to do curbside pickup when I order groceries/household items online.

I was masking up everywhere until I got fully vaccinated & the CDC (in May 2021) said vaccinated people largely didn’t need to mask up in a lot of settings.

I did get approval to start visiting my fully vaccinated mom again in April or March 2021 at her nursing after more than a year away and I always mask in common areas.

However, after the Delta variant took hold, I quit eating out again and started masking (often double) up again. I can’t take the chance of bringing Covid to my mom and her fellow residents.

I did go see the touring production of My Fair Lady last night. The venue has pretty rigid guidelines that made me feel comfortable in going. Masked the whole time. Proof of vaccination required at the door with proof of a negative test only allowed if you are under 12 or have medical/religious exemption.

I even ate out beforehand at one of my favorite places nearby that has outdoor dining.

I’m also attending the St. Vincent concert here on Tuesday night and even though she’s requiring proof of vaccination or negative test, she’s not requiring masks. Definitely not as many precautions as My Fair Lady. But I will wait five days after I see the concert on Tuesday and then get tested before I go see my mom again.

My experience at MFL is making me think about going to see the tour of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory at the end of the month. Maybe even on Halloween. That’s something I really had a desire to see, but that could be fun!

I got my Moderna third shot on Friday now that I have had three people I know here in Oklahoma with breakthrough infections. If it wasn’t for visiting my mom, perhaps I wouldn’t be so concerned. The rough night and morning I had after getting my third shot is well worth whatever boost in immunity I will get.

Well, NYers have it a little easier with the digital Excelsior Pass which goes to your phone’s wallet. I guess it’s a fair question to bring up, but how many people are so strongly anti-vaccine but also so in love with Broadway that they would bother with that?

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GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Well, NYers have it a little easier with the digital Excelsior Pass which goes to your phone’s wallet. I guess it’s a fair question to bring up, but how many people are so strongly anti-vaccine but also so in love with Broadway that they would bother with that?"

Good point that I had considered. I would guess that the overlap on the Venn Diagram between the theater crowd and the anti-vaxx crowd is pretty small. Although I suspect the overlap in NYC is smaller than it is hear in Oklahoma with its abysmal vaccination rates.

I do think theater people that are avidly anti-vax would probably mostly just protest coming at all since they are requiring proof of vaccination.

poisonivy2 said: "They are easy to fake, but I do know someone who was fired from his job for uploading a fake one."

It's also a felony for which you can go to jail for a long time. Not many theatregoers here are unvaccinated (over 75% of all adult New Yorkers are vaccinated to begin with (and almost 100% in zip codes where theatre goers generally live) and even fewer are criminals. And the Excelsior pass and similar apps can't be faked because they are cross checked to DOH records. I honestly think this is not an issue on Broadway.

HogansHero said: "poisonivy2 said: "They are easy to fake, but I do know someone who was fired from his job for uploading a fake one."

It's also a felony for which you can go to jail for a long time. Notmany theatregoers here are unvaccinated (over 75% of all adult New Yorkers are vaccinated to begin with (and almost 100% in zip codes where theatre goers generally live) and even fewer are criminals. And the Excelsior pass and similar apps can't be faked because they are cross checked to DOH records. I honestly think this is not an issue on Broadway.

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first, @uncage i hope you're feeling better. I think this is going to turn into a flu we have to live with always, and will kill many people each year like the flu does, as it morphs and grows. my main concern now are the kids who cant get vaccinated and raise the alert level for all of us.

jumping in only to say i have been impressed with the level of security re vaccination identification Ive seen at the three shows I've been at. All checked my ID and my Excelsior Pass, and all attending took the process pretty seriously from what i saw. I have flown back/forth to Europe a bunch for work in the past few months and I can tell you that the staff at the Westside Theater did a better and more through job than anyone at United Airlines or the TSA.

the most encouraging moment i had was at Moulin Rouge- i was surprised that there was an empty seat in an otherwise sold out section of the theater. the person two over from me explained that his friend was vaccinated, but only got her second shot a few days ago and the theater people noticed it hadnt been the full 2 weeks, and wouldnt let her in. he was bummed about it and said it in a "can you believe that!" sorta way, but under my mask i was grinning, nicely done Hirschfeld staff!

I'd assume everyone has been tested daily and they're clear now/negative.

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