Tony Awards aftermath- Page 4

[Mr. Wormwood]

Posted: 6/13/23 at 1:46pm

fashionguru_23 said: "To be honest, at a day and a half after the Tony's and nothing currently running has annouced a closing date, I am very pleased."

I don't think any of the shows that could be "in trouble" are closing imminently. They'll all run through most or all of the summer besides the plays that have limited runs. There's no show that's doing close to as terrible as something like Paradise Square last year and even that held on for a month after the Tonys (for delusional reasons, I know).

[RippedMan]

Posted: 6/13/23 at 1:54pm

Do we think Life of Pi or Leopoldstadt would tour?

[nasty_khakis]

Posted: 6/13/23 at 2:01pm

RippedMan said: "Do we think Life of Pi or Leopoldstadt would tour?"

Leopoldstadt would be EXPENSIVE to tour having to provide housing and per diems for 40 people not to mention the cost of parental guardians for the kids. If anything it will get a production in LA and maybe SF/Chicago if a regional wants to also help offset costs.

Life of Pi's set is very complex for a tour and it wasn't exactly a hit-hit here but it toured in the UK so they have a way to tour the set.

[JudyDenmark]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 12:02am

FWIW, at my Tony party (in NYC), everyone who hadn’t yet seen Shucked said they wanted to see it after the performance. I mean, that’s like 6 tickets haha, but the sentiment was pretty unanimous 

[bear88]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 5:02am

Hi JudyDenmark,

I have been critical of the Shucked Tony Awards performance because I thought it was much too hyperactive. I have seen the musical and thought it had several strong song candidates, or a less-busy medley, depending on what the producers and creatives wanted to  emphasize.

I’m curious what appealed to your small sample size of Tony Awards watchers. Because if they all wanted to see the show after watching the performance, that’s sort of the point.

[JudyDenmark]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 8:47am

bear88 said: "Hi JudyDenmark,

I have been critical of theShuckedTony Awards performance because I thought it was much too hyperactive. I have seen the musical and thought it had several strong song candidates, or a less-busy medley, depending on what the producers and creatives wanted to emphasize.

I’m curious what appealed to your small sample size of Tony Awards watchers. Because if they all wanted to see the show after watching the performance, that’s sort of the point."

For what it’s worth I agree with you. I LOVED the show and out of everything performing it was the one was most anxious to see what they’d choose to perform so that they could sell tickets. I also found it disjointed if you haven’t seen the show, but I guess it didn’t matter? 
 

I didn’t poll everyone at my party, and several had already seen it, but was very pleasantly surprised at the reaction. Which was a lot of “oh ok I get it” and “that was really fun” - I think a lot of people genuinely had NO idea what this show was about or what it would be, since it sounds like a bad joke on paper.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 10:04am

I’m sure it’s a big show, but isn’t To Kill a Mockingbird a big play! Feel like those do well on tour

As for “Shucked…” I tried to listen to the album but the corn heavy jokes mixed with the bad cheesy southern accents… I’ll wait for the tour 

[Det95]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 11:51am

bear88 said: "Hi JudyDenmark,

I have been critical of theShuckedTony Awards performance because I thought it was much too hyperactive. I have seen the musical and thought it had several strong song candidates, or a less-busy medley, depending on what the producers and creatives wanted to emphasize.

I’m curious what appealed to your small sample size of Tony Awards watchers. Because if they all wanted to see the show after watching the performance, that’s sort of the point."

At least for me and my watch party we just laughed. The same group had no interest in seeing Something Rotten until their Tony performance, but that got our butts in seats. If Shucked is still running our next trip into the city we'll be seeing it.

[dearalanaaaa]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 12:48pm

I wonder how long it is until the big winners (Leopoldstat, Kimberly Akimbo, and Parade) get off of TDF? There was such a large rush line at both but I still see them listed on TKTs today. How disappointing for how wonderful those shows are, but maybe the Tony after effects and summer need to kick in. I feel like most shows are listed besides Sweeney and the usual suspects (hamilton/lion king/aladdin). 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 1:46pm

I remember being able to buy Next to Normal tickets pretty easily for Ripley’s post Tony’s win. So maybe just takes a bit to kick in? Not sure anyone is rushing to buy tickets to anything.

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 2:25pm

RippedMan said: "I’m sure it’s a big show, but isn’t To Kill a Mockingbird a big play! Feel like those do well on tour"

TKAM is a big title in addition to being a large-scale play. Most markets can't sustain more than one nonmusical play in a season. I know KITE RUNNER of all things intends to tour...maybe LIFE OF PI could, but I don't see LEOPOLDSTADT touring outside of major markets. Release it to the LORT theatres as soon as possible.

 

RippedMan said: "I remember being able to buy Next to Normal tickets pretty easily for Ripley’s post Tony’s win. So maybe just takes a bit to kick in? Not sure anyone is rushing to buy tickets to anything."

Every show is different. I don't know how much these shows wrapped Sunday-Tuesday, but I think the rewards of a Tony win/performance is less immediate than we might think. (Though anecdotally we all know people who pulled the trigger on tix that night.) If a show has been averaging $80-$100 tickets, it's a big ask to immediately start averaging $125. KIMBERLY and SOME LIKE IT in particular have been running for 7 months, so some people who might have bought tix post-Tonys could have seen it already.

[bdn223]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 2:50pm

dearalanaaaa said: "I wonder how long it is until the big winners (Leopoldstat, Kimberly Akimbo, and Parade) get off of TDF? There was such a large rush line at both but I still see them listed on TKTs today. How disappointing for how wonderful those shows are, but maybe the Tony after effects and summer need to kick in. I feel like most shows are listed besides Sweeney and the usual suspects (hamilton/lion king/aladdin)."

Kimberly Akimbo was only on TKTS for the matinee, and is no longer on TDF, which is to be expected for a show that was not SRO prior to the Tonys. I would expect we see it occasionally pop up on there for a matinee, for the next week or so before it hopefully disappears from them for the rest of summer. Considering the Booth is 74 seats less than the Circle in the Square, 156 seats less than the Lyceum, and 330 seats less than the Barrymore where other recent Tony Award winning Nerdicals have played (Fun Home, A Strange Loop, and The Band's Visit), it will be interesting if the lower capacity will help Kimberly Akimbo in the long run. If we are comparing it to the other nerdicals though, Kimberly Akimbo is definitely more family friendly than Fun Home and A Strange Loop and significantly more accessible to general audiences than The Band's Visit. 

Kimberly Akimbo is in a unique situation though as unlike Fun Home and A Strange Loop, it did not open just before the Tony eligibility cutoff limiting losses for just a week or 2 prior to award season. But then unlike The Band's Visit which also opened in the Fall it was not this massive theatergoer must see event during the winter. Its honestly crazy to look at The Band's Visits grosses as it peaked not after sweeping the Tony Awards, but instead the holiday season the month after it opened, where it spent 2 months bringing in an average of $1.1M. Even in the 7 weeks that followed its 10 Tony wins it only averaged $1.07M before grosses grosses began to fall by approximately 1% each week until the first week of the new year where they fell by nearly 50% in a single week, and then never recovered. 

We can also add A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder in there as the last nerdical to open in the fall and struggle to make it to the Tony's where it came out victorious, but I don't think the market is the same as it was when Gentleman's Guide opened a decade ago and so the odds of it being able to sell out through the rest of the year seem slim. My guess is it will play like Fun Home and play well through the summer before demand starts to taper off.

[bear88]

Posted: 6/14/23 at 3:54pm

bdn223 said: "dearalanaaaa said: "I wonder how long it is until the big winners (Leopoldstat, Kimberly Akimbo, and Parade) get off of TDF? There was such a large rush line at both but I still see them listed on TKTs today. How disappointing for how wonderful those shows are, but maybe the Tony after effects and summer need to kick in. I feel like most shows are listed besides Sweeney and the usual suspects (hamilton/lion king/aladdin)."

Kimberly Akimbo was only on TKTS for the matinee, and is no longer on TDF, which is to be expected for a show that was not SRO prior to the Tonys. I would expect we see it occasionally pop up on there for a matinee, for the next week or so before it hopefully disappears from them for the rest of summer. Considering the Booth is 74 seats less than the Circle in the Square, 156 seats less than the Lyceum, and 330 seats less than the Barrymore where other recent Tony Award winning Nerdicals have played (Fun Home, A Strange Loop, andThe Band's Visit),it will be interesting if the lower capacity will help Kimberly Akimboin the long run. If we are comparing it to the other nerdicals though,Kimberly Akimbois definitely more family friendly thanFun HomeandA Strange Loopand significantly more accessible to general audiences thanThe Band's Visit.

Kimberly Akimbo is in a unique situation though as unlikeFun HomeandA Strange Loop, it did not open just before the Tony eligibility cutoff limiting losses for just a week or 2 prior to award season. But then unlikeThe Band's Visitwhich also opened in the Fall it was not this massive theatergoer must see event during the winter. Its honestly crazy to look atThe Band's Visitsgrosses as it peaked not after sweeping the Tony Awards, but instead the holiday season the month after it opened, where it spent 2 months bringing in an average of $1.1M. Even in the 7 weeks that followed its 10 Tony wins it only averaged $1.07M before grosses grosses began to fall by approximately 1% each week until the first week of the new year where they fell by nearly 50% in a single week, and then never recovered.

We can also add A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murderin there as the last nerdical to open in the fall and struggle to make it to the Tony's where it came out victorious, but I don't thinkthe market is the same as it was whenGentleman's Guideopened a decade ago and so the odds of it being able to sell out through the rest of the year seem slim. My guess is it will play likeFun Homeand play well through the summer before demand starts to taper off."

Gentleman’s Guide seems like the best comp in terms of a show that opened in the fall and struggled for months until it won Best Musical. Kimberly Akimbo doesn’t need to turn into an epic blockbuster to turn a profit. Selling out the theater at higher prices, including premium seats, should serve the producers quite nicely.

The show should have a solid summer, but we’ll all be watching the grosses. I am sticking with my uninformed guess that the show will make it to January but not much beyond that. I could be wrong, though.