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[PalJoey]

Posted: 9/17/09 at 10:47pm

My goodness, what an icky, icky, ICKY thread!

Crikey, I could have written this show better.

But ya didn't, Blanche, didja?

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 9/17/09 at 11:03pm

This is the last I'll say of it. WHen someone tells you to stop sending them private messages and you continue to do so, it falls into harassment territory. I deal with this sort of thing at my job all the time. You continued to PM me after you were specifically asked not to.

And on a completely different note, dear Plume, I don't need writing advice from the creator of this:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/MidSummer_CD_Review_Roundup_20090808 Updated On: 9/17/09 at 11:03 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 9:39am

It's STILL not a good show.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 9:56am

I think the storyline is completely forced. I wish they would stop the "teacher,wife,baby,coworker" storyline and focus more on the glee kids since, well, the title of the show is GLEE. It's sad that the part almost everyone waits for is the musical numbers. If that is all this show is, release an album.

[bwaylvsong]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 10:00am

Well, considering none of these actors (with VERY few exceptions) look like actual HS students, it doesn't really matter how long they stay in high school. Heck, Sabrina the Teenage Witch didn't look like a teen, either, and was in HS for, what, six years?

Posted: 9/18/09 at 10:38am

I can't say I care for the color of the cheerleader's uniforms one bit.

Posted: 9/18/09 at 10:39am

AND they showed a secretary in the principal's office putting something in an "Express Mail" envelope. Everyone knows that schools send things UPS.
Updated On: 9/18/09 at 10:39 AM

[James885]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 10:53am

I have to say that yeah, I felt that this third episode was a little on the weak side, and didn't really hold my attention the whole way through. I agree with everyone who said that they'd like to see more of the members of the Glee club fleshed out, instead of the constant focus on Will and his wife. While I enjoyed Victor Garber and Debra Monk, I was thoroughly bored every time Will and his father would have one of their deep conversations. On the plus side, I LOVED Debra Monk's drunken moment with Josh Groban

I do think that Jane Lynch's character needs more of a motivation, cause right now she just seems to be going after the Glee club just for the sake of it, like she has nothing better to do.

I can't say I care for the color of the cheerleader's uniforms one bit.

Just to piggyback on that, and it's kind of a really nitpicky thing, but does anybody else find it completely unrealistic that these cheerleaders wear there uniforms to school every day? Every time we see them, they're always in those same uniforms. Do they EVER wear regular clothes? I mean, I think we figured out that they're cheerleaders, we don't need to be beaten over the head with it.

I'm not digging the whole subplot with the red-haired teacher whose name escapes me. You can tell it's heading toward a standard love triangle plot. The Acafella subplot could have been better, but wasn't that bad. I do hate that they seem to be infusing each episode with a theme (like 'confidence'). The musical numbers were definitely the highlight. Loved "Bust Your Windows", despite the way it was sort of forced into the plot, as well as the other musical numbers.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 11:10am

James, I think that them wearing the uniforms all the time is part of them trying to create a specific, heightened reality world for this show. The problem is that it's all so inconsistent.

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 11:49am

"I do think that Jane Lynch's character needs more of a motivation, cause right now she just seems to be going after the Glee club just for the sake of it, like she has nothing better to do."

She said in the last episode that she's trying to destroy Glee club because she wants her full budget back. That's actually one of the few character points that the writers got right. The fight for budget dollars is reality.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 1:44pm

Yeah, but what she wants the money for is VERY unrealistic

1) dry cleaning done in another country
2) Sun tanning for the girls

It's just stupid

[wickedfan]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 1:50pm

Yeah, it IS unrealistic. That's exactly what Ryan Murphy is going for. That's what he's always gone for. He creates absurd realities in his shows. That's what Glee is trying to go for: absurdity with heart. I, personally, don't think it quite works for this show, because Murphy wants us to love all of the characters, which just isn't going to happen. But I like the tone the show is starting to go for.

[Craww]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 2:05pm

The extravagance of the perks in the cheer budget are funny to me. It's not realistic, but it illustrates the reality of similar misplaced priorities in school programs. To compare it to a show that does realism right, it's like on Friday Night Lights when the school's academic budget is nonexistent - and yet they're getting a JumboTron for the football team.

Glee is definitely a heightened reality. A lot of people hated the twee heightened reality of Pushing Daisies too. I'm not gonna compare them, because PD was a much better show, but it was still dismissed for a lot of the reasons Glee is being dismissed here. (Although, if we're upset over unlikable characters, it might not be a stretch to compare it to Wonderfalls. I don't think I ever warmed to Jaye, just as people aren't warming to the Glee characters.)

I get not liking it, but I disagree with everyone saying that Glee is categorically a bad show.

[EVIE]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 2:24pm

There's so many Glee threads that I can't keep up! As I stated on one of the many other Glee threads, this past episode wasn't as enjoyable to me as the others. I hope future episodes will focus more on the actual Glee club kids. I was a tad upset that they rushed the Rachel/Finn relationship soooo much! It should have played out like a Jim/Pam relationship IMO (how excited am I that The Office is back?! Yipppeee!!)

[Gothampc]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 2:25pm

Heightened reality is excellent when there is creativity behind it and it can be sustained. The show "Twin Peaks" started out as a great example of that. The first episodes were great. But as the show advanced, the creativity faltered and the storyline failed. I think the problem with "Glee" is that the creativity is great in the musical numbers, but the book scenes aren't strong enough.

[Mistress_Spouzic]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 3:00pm

Maybe Im just getting too old to connect to the plight of a teenager because its funny to me how the consensus here is that the focus needed to change to the glee club kids- the storyline about the gay kid coming out, as if anyone couldn't see that he was gay, had me rolling my eyes. I enjoyed the man band, but maybe thats cuz I know Matt tried a boy band or two in real life. And I agree that they need to do something to make the wife atleast somewhat more likeable, Im totally rooting for the other teacher lady.

[Drunk Chita Rivera]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 4:31pm

I think the writers have a great idea for a show but don't know how to really expand it without expanding it too much.

[MotorTink]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 4:40pm

Re: Sue character - The sun tan privilages were revoked as punishment to that girl not budget cuts. The only thing they have officially cut was the dry cleaning budget. I personally think her motive is that she and her Cheerios have been top dog, and is threatened by anyone/thing that can take spotlight away from her. She rules the school. Upcoming episodes are supposed to go into that more.

[Kad]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 4:47pm

Pushing Daisies wasn't just "twee heightened"- it was a flat-out fantasy world. It was perfectly natural and completely unsurprising when Kristin Chenoweth or Ellen Greene started to sing, because it completely fit into the world. Nothing about Pushing Daisies, save the human emotions, could be construed for being real.

Glee just tries to walk between heightened reality and normal reality, and that usually just ends up being maddening to an audience.

[BobbyBubby]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 4:52pm

For me I'm really enjoying the multiple story lines and think there are plenty of places to go.

Posted: 9/18/09 at 5:37pm

Pushing Daisies was flat out the worst piece of poo ever broadcast on national television. Stupid, insulting, craptacular poo. Every person involved should be banned from ever working in TV again. Except for the narrator- he can still do laxative commercial voice overs.

Was that show written by monkeys???

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 5:39pm

[SporkGoddess]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 5:59pm

I loved season 1 of PD but wasn't so big on season 2.

[Craww]

Posted: 9/18/09 at 6:30pm

Pushing Daisies wasn't just "twee heightened"- it was a flat-out fantasy world.

Eh, it's just arguing semantics. I could still just say it was very very very heightened, since there were still plenty of real world constructs built into the universe. It was stylistic and anachronistic and based on an idea of magical realism, but it was still based in a vague reflection of the real world.

I don't really think how someone classifies each show really matters, though. The point still stands. Some of the reasons people will write off Glee will be similar to the reasons people wrote off Pushing Daisies.

Posted: 9/18/09 at 6:38pm

Phyllis if you were involved in Pushing Daisies I would lift the lifetime ban for you.