Universal's WICKED Films - News & Discussion Thread — Page 113

I have seen "Wicked" onstage 3 times. The OBC, the First National Tour and when the tour came back to Denver. I just "revisited" the second act this afternoon just to refresh for the movie.



What I would like to see fleshed out in the movie are 2 things...

Someone fill me in if I just missed it but, I am still not sure about what "worked" regarding Elphaba's actually not melting. I tried to figure it out with the shadows on the curtain but, did I miss something?

Also, we know why Glinda gives Dorothy the slippers in the "Wizard of Oz", but since the relationship between the two witches is different in "Wicked" I would like to know the reason Glinda decided to give them to Dorothy. Again, did I miss something?

And I just assumed Elphaba turned Fiyero into a scarecrow to disguise him.

For me, these are the things I hope they really flesh out in this movie.

The "working" was that the propaganda campaign backfired. The belief that she's so wicked she can't touch clean water enables her to fake her death and disappear from the public eye. (Remember the figures fleeing on horseback at the start of the first movie?)

The thing I need to see explained more is the timeline. The stage show is extremely vague on whether it's days, weeks or many years that pass between the end of Act 1 and the start of Act 2.

With all due - it’s been almost twenty three years. A little late for spoilers.

darquegk said: "The thing I need to see explained more is the timeline. The stage show is extremely vague on whether it's days, weeks or many years that pass between the end of Act 1 and the start of Act 2."

It helps to be familiar with Maguire's book. According to the book, it's about 5 years.

TheatreFan4 said: "[...] it's not a book or a movie you could acquire for $5."

Yes it is. The book can be checked out of many libraries for free, and the movie's free on Amazon Prime (if you have a subscription), otherwise it's $3.99 to rent on multiple platforms.

Found this article on the shoes. I totally did not remember from the book that Glinda actually enchanted the shoes.



https://thedirect.com/article/wicked-glinda-dorothy-shoes-why

Hmmm where is Miss Coddle?

WldKingdomHM said: "Hmmm where isMiss Coddle?"

She was part of Shiz administration. No need to see her more than we did when Galinda and Elphaba both started classes at Shiz.

Seb28 said: "I have heard that they have just finished filming 5 new scenes with Bowen Yang and Bronwyn James (PfanneeandShenshen), who were initially not a part of Wicked "For Good", but they have added them in. They also re-shot some other scenes. This is interesting, the film will then contain scenes of characters that were shot nearly 3 years apart."

This is standard and known as “pick ups” - when they go back months (or in this case - years) and film sections they found to be missing or wanted to expand and which weren’t filmed during the principal photography stage of filming. JAWS, PRETTY IN PINK, and FATAL ATTRACTION have “pick ups” that created iconic moments in these now classic films that weren’t filmed during the original filming of these films.

Their parts probably got beefed up because no one expected them to be audience favorites AND no one expected Wicked to be and remain as big as it was. Pfanee and Shen Shen are doing commercials now.

With all the rumors about Universal expanding Wicked into a cinematic universe beyond Part 2, it makes sense that Pfanee and Shen Shen have been beefed up a bit to make them "those guys," the tangential but beloved comic side characters who are just unimportant enough to be able to show up almost anywhere. If you're familiar with the MCU, Pfanee and Shen Shen are the Ozian equivalent of Darcy, Agent Woo, Wong and Madisynn; the story is never about them, but they're almost always somewhere on the sidelines.

darquegk said: "Their parts probably got beefed up because no one expected them to be audience favorites AND no one expected Wicked to be and remain as big as it was. Pfanee and Shen Shen are doing commercials now.

With all the rumors about Universal expanding Wicked into a cinematic universe beyond Part 2, it makes sense that Pfanee and Shen Shen have been beefed up a bit to make them "those guys," the tangential but beloved comic side characters who are just unimportant enough to be able to show up almost anywhere. If you're familiar with the MCU, Pfanee and Shen Shen are the Ozian equivalent of Darcy, Agent Woo, Wong and Madisynn; the story is never about them, but they're almost always somewhere on the sidelines."

I mean... did they? I feel more Bowen Yang has had a good year and they wanted him in more of it versus Pfanee being a break out of the first movie. Pfanee had like one funny line and I don't even recall anything from Shen Shen.

GiantsInTheSky2 said: "ER765 said: "GiantsInTheSky2 said: "Bowen and Bronwyn were always both part of For Good, they’ve just expanded their presence and arcs."

Exactly what we’ve all been clamoring for. Fleshing out two unnecessary side characters who were the most grating thing in Part One. 😑"

Oh, calm down. They were seldomly used ascomedicplot devices, just as the characters arein the musical. Elphaba doesn’t get the hat in either medium without them, they are needed so Glinda actually has hype and popularity (or enablers), and they each had less than ten lines. They barely had enough of a presence to be “grating” in a three hour movie."

I am…perfectly calm. They don’t need to be in the movie the entire time in order to be grating. It’s called a difference of opinion and I’m hardly the only person who feels that way. I found them grating and don’t need their characters to be “flushed out” any further. You clearly didn’t and you’re open to it. It’s not a big deal. Next.