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#577
Posted: 10/18/10 at 12:53pm
"I think one of the problems may be that Almodovar films (in my opinion) are a bit mediocre themselves."
Everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinon and I certainly am not attacking the poster for this opinion, but I absolutely don't think that the source material is the problem.I personally find Almodovar's films fascinating with richly developed characters. The Pepa of the film is far more developed (and likable) than the Pepa currently onstage, and I think that major fault of this show right now.
Almodovar's films are inherently theatrical in their own right, and maybe it would have worked better as a straight play, I don't know, but right now the majority of the music doesn't seem to be forwarding character development or plot. Songs like "Mother's Day" while pretty seem to bring the action to a standstill and songs like "Madrid" (while fun) really have nothing to do with anything.
Everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinon and I certainly am not attacking the poster for this opinion, but I absolutely don't think that the source material is the problem.I personally find Almodovar's films fascinating with richly developed characters. The Pepa of the film is far more developed (and likable) than the Pepa currently onstage, and I think that major fault of this show right now.
Almodovar's films are inherently theatrical in their own right, and maybe it would have worked better as a straight play, I don't know, but right now the majority of the music doesn't seem to be forwarding character development or plot. Songs like "Mother's Day" while pretty seem to bring the action to a standstill and songs like "Madrid" (while fun) really have nothing to do with anything.
#578
Posted: 10/18/10 at 12:57pm
Am I the only one who liked and felt for Sherie's Pepa? I felt moved by the final moments where she announces her "decision."
Women and gay men who have dealt with their share of jerks should be able to relate to these characters. And I think there's enough there to make them likable and relatable.
Women and gay men who have dealt with their share of jerks should be able to relate to these characters. And I think there's enough there to make them likable and relatable.
Updated On: 10/18/10 at 12:57 PM
#579
Posted: 10/18/10 at 3:00pm
i love you, mimijudith...
i love you... just want you to know that i want to kiss you and hug you and win a stuffed animal for you at the next carnival...
i LOVE that people think that my opinion is not worthy because i did not see the whole show...
first, i did NOT leave at intermission... i saw the nonsense/piragua guy/narrator/taxi guy sing that weird song under the dangling women... next thing i knew... patti (who i love) was in a boring and inane courtroom scene that was sooooooo boring that i had to leave...
i only reviewed what i saw... i think it is important for people to know that i was MOVED to leave... the only other time i wanted to leave a show was during THE LIFE, but i even then i stuck it out...
the irony here is.... the people on this forum who said they liked the show ALL agreed that ACT 1 was superior! kinda funny....
i loved when my new girlfriend, judithmimi (i call her "pooks") said that she woke up the next day with a feeling that something horrible had happened.... that is when i fell in love... that was a PERFECT way to describe it.... i REALLY DO love you, pooks!!!
i love you... just want you to know that i want to kiss you and hug you and win a stuffed animal for you at the next carnival...
i LOVE that people think that my opinion is not worthy because i did not see the whole show...
first, i did NOT leave at intermission... i saw the nonsense/piragua guy/narrator/taxi guy sing that weird song under the dangling women... next thing i knew... patti (who i love) was in a boring and inane courtroom scene that was sooooooo boring that i had to leave...
i only reviewed what i saw... i think it is important for people to know that i was MOVED to leave... the only other time i wanted to leave a show was during THE LIFE, but i even then i stuck it out...
the irony here is.... the people on this forum who said they liked the show ALL agreed that ACT 1 was superior! kinda funny....
i loved when my new girlfriend, judithmimi (i call her "pooks") said that she woke up the next day with a feeling that something horrible had happened.... that is when i fell in love... that was a PERFECT way to describe it.... i REALLY DO love you, pooks!!!
WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO KNOW?!!!!!
Updated On: 10/18/10 at 03:00 PM
#580
Posted: 10/18/10 at 3:09pm
Kyle, MWAH!
#581
Posted: 10/18/10 at 3:15pm
i am on an ipad and in a rush... i will clean my previous post when i am on my home computer... still have a hard time editing on this thing...
until then, i am off to the gym...
i need to make my muscles bigger and stronger for POOKS!!!
i am dancing on air.... i found love on the WOMEN ON THE VERGE OF A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN begins previews TONIGHT forum... i am the luckiest guy in the world!!!!!!!!!!!
until then, i am off to the gym...
i need to make my muscles bigger and stronger for POOKS!!!
i am dancing on air.... i found love on the WOMEN ON THE VERGE OF A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN begins previews TONIGHT forum... i am the luckiest guy in the world!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO KNOW?!!!!!
#582
Posted: 10/18/10 at 4:14pm
This thread really is insane.
Amen.
Amen.
#583
Posted: 10/18/10 at 5:20pm
I just wonder if some of the overwhelmingly negative reaction to the show is due to unmet expectations: major Bway star power in the cast, a Tony-winning director fresh off a mega-hit together with his whole design team who have a shelf-load of Tonys themselves, a renown film director's involvement, no out of town try-out and major hype. Anything short of a blow-out show would have fallen short of expectations.
Or, put another way, would you have enjoyed it more if there was a little less glamour associated with the production? Unknown cast, novice director, smaller set...
Or, put another way, would you have enjoyed it more if there was a little less glamour associated with the production? Unknown cast, novice director, smaller set...
#584
Posted: 10/18/10 at 5:37pm
"Am I the only one who liked and felt for Sherie's Pepa? I felt moved by the final moments where she announces her "decision.""
No, you're not the only one. I felt as you did.
No, you're not the only one. I felt as you did.
#585
Posted: 10/18/10 at 6:37pm
"Am I the only one who liked and felt for Sherie's Pepa? I felt moved by the final moments where she announces her "decision."
no, you are definitely not. I thought she portraye it in a lovely way.
And for the record, I am no one's shill. I am a proud Hispanic happy to see a show on Broadway repping my people, and I feel like people are tearing it down because they have a problem with seeing middle class Hispanics portrayed on stage.
Kyle4 & mimijudith SHOULD definitely get together and have babies. IN HELL.
And Kyle4, stop pretending that you're going to the gym to get muscles for a girl. We all know from your tone & your drama, that you're a big ole queen.
no, you are definitely not. I thought she portraye it in a lovely way.
And for the record, I am no one's shill. I am a proud Hispanic happy to see a show on Broadway repping my people, and I feel like people are tearing it down because they have a problem with seeing middle class Hispanics portrayed on stage.
Kyle4 & mimijudith SHOULD definitely get together and have babies. IN HELL.
And Kyle4, stop pretending that you're going to the gym to get muscles for a girl. We all know from your tone & your drama, that you're a big ole queen.
"Don't f*** a baby. I'll get rid of your AIDS. If you f*** this frog."
#586
Posted: 10/18/10 at 6:46pm
Most of you know me as a long time poster. I am glad some of you enjoyed the show and felt for the characters, but I am boggled if we saw the same show. I agree completely with mimijudith. I felt like I had no idea where any of these scenes or songs were coming from. A total jumbled mess from start to finish. The court scene and song-you're kidding, right? The insane mess of an ending and shooting? For realz?
To address the topic of unmet expectations: is it wrong to expect something stellar from all the talent involved? I mean, you assume that with all the people who signed on that this was going to be something really exceptional. The reviews and word on the street is mixed at best. It's a steaming turd if you ask me. Actually, I wasn't expecting that much and it didn't meet those expectations.
To be honest, I felt for Brian Stokes Mitchell-why would he want to be with a depressive actress or a dramatic overbearing hag?
To address the topic of unmet expectations: is it wrong to expect something stellar from all the talent involved? I mean, you assume that with all the people who signed on that this was going to be something really exceptional. The reviews and word on the street is mixed at best. It's a steaming turd if you ask me. Actually, I wasn't expecting that much and it didn't meet those expectations.
To be honest, I felt for Brian Stokes Mitchell-why would he want to be with a depressive actress or a dramatic overbearing hag?
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal
"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#587
Posted: 10/18/10 at 6:50pm
Women…Breakdown
(Belasco) $440,931 7,329 8 0 1,002 $60.16 91.4%
it's great that a show about Hispanics is one of the top grossing shows this week. specially since In The Heights is a sinking ship.
(Belasco) $440,931 7,329 8 0 1,002 $60.16 91.4%
it's great that a show about Hispanics is one of the top grossing shows this week. specially since In The Heights is a sinking ship.
"Don't f*** a baby. I'll get rid of your AIDS. If you f*** this frog."
Updated On: 10/18/10 at 06:50 PM
#588
Posted: 10/18/10 at 7:46pm
Betty, didn't you only see the second preview? Several changes and cuts were made last week.
Oh well. It's really a lost cause at this point. Those who hate it will always hate it. And those of us who like it will continue to like it.
Oh well. It's really a lost cause at this point. Those who hate it will always hate it. And those of us who like it will continue to like it.
#589
Posted: 10/18/10 at 7:47pm
Here's another really good interview. This one is with Patti LuPone about the show, how it's going, how she feels about the other actors, what they're trying to convey etc. Very insiteful!
http://www.broadway.com/shows/women-verge-nervous-breakdown/buzz/153946/patti-lupone-dishes-about-women-on-the-verge-rockers-on-broadway-more/
Broadway.com | Patti LuPone Dishes About Women on the Verge, Rockers
http://www.broadway.com/shows/women-verge-nervous-breakdown/buzz/153946/patti-lupone-dishes-about-women-on-the-verge-rockers-on-broadway-more/
Broadway.com | Patti LuPone Dishes About Women on the Verge, Rockers
#590
Posted: 10/18/10 at 7:49pm
Am I the only one who liked and felt for Sherie's Pepa?
No. I thought Sherie was wonderful and clearly established the show as "her" story.
No. I thought Sherie was wonderful and clearly established the show as "her" story.
#591
Posted: 10/18/10 at 8:11pm
donthate...
that was a pretty homophobic comment... you have been pretty awful in some of your comments... but going THERE is not smart, kind or sensible. just LOW and SAD.
i am happy to deal with anyone's vitriol... i can give it, so i will take it. but, homophobic comments are UNACCEPTABLE. do NOT try that again with me! and i assume i speak for EVERY other gay person here!!!! actually, i hope i am speaking for ANY decent person!!!!!
that was one sad and self HATING comment. super pathetic!
that was a pretty homophobic comment... you have been pretty awful in some of your comments... but going THERE is not smart, kind or sensible. just LOW and SAD.
i am happy to deal with anyone's vitriol... i can give it, so i will take it. but, homophobic comments are UNACCEPTABLE. do NOT try that again with me! and i assume i speak for EVERY other gay person here!!!! actually, i hope i am speaking for ANY decent person!!!!!
that was one sad and self HATING comment. super pathetic!
WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO KNOW?!!!!!
#592
Posted: 10/18/10 at 8:11pm
Was there anyone who *didn't* see the movie beforehand, who was able to follow the story very clearly?
(I'm just wondering whether it is better to watch the movie or not first)
(I'm just wondering whether it is better to watch the movie or not first)
Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.
#593
Posted: 10/18/10 at 8:12pm
I had not seen the movie beforehand, and I was fine. It's not a confusing story at all.
#594
Posted: 10/18/10 at 8:19pm
I didn't see the movie either. (from reading these reviews it seems like this was actually a good thing. I didn't have anything to compare it to.)
Broadway Girl on Twitter loved the show! ha.
Broadway Girl on Twitter loved the show! ha.
#595
Posted: 10/18/10 at 8:48pm
I also didn't see the movie beforehand and had no trouble following the story.
#596
Posted: 10/18/10 at 9:24pm
i'll be curious to see what the critics say with everyone on the boards being so divided.
"The sexual energy between the mother and son really concerns me!"-random woman behind me at Next to Normal
"I want to meet him after and bang him!"-random woman who exposed her breasts at Rock of Ages, referring to James Carpinello
#597
Posted: 10/18/10 at 9:26pm
I think they may be just as divided. But I think a positive review from Brantley is what the need. It will be basically guarantee an extension. But Brantley did basically hate Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
#598
Posted: 10/18/10 at 9:31pm
Changing the subject, at the Merchandise stand there was a pre-order for the cast recording. I havent had my attention at all today.
#599
Posted: 10/18/10 at 9:35pm
This was mentioned earlier in the thread but it's pretty exciting.
Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.
#600
Posted: 10/18/10 at 10:17pm
ljay889: Am I the only one who liked and felt for Sherie's Pepa?
adamgreer: No. I thought Sherie was wonderful and clearly established the show as "her" story.
... and...
ljay889: I had not seen the movie beforehand, and I was fine. It's not a confusing story at all.
adamgreer: I also didn't see the movie beforehand and had no trouble following the story.
You guys could finish each other's sentences.
adamgreer: No. I thought Sherie was wonderful and clearly established the show as "her" story.
... and...
ljay889: I had not seen the movie beforehand, and I was fine. It's not a confusing story at all.
adamgreer: I also didn't see the movie beforehand and had no trouble following the story.
You guys could finish each other's sentences.
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