JennH said: "P of E, at least what I saw at T.W. was basically a travesty and much of it missed the point to why the movie is a much beloved masterpiece. Of course I can't speak on the book for any other production after T.W. but if they didn't overhaul it, it's gonna have a rough road if they're gonna take it to NY, and it's seems like that's the plan considering this West End production, limited though it may be."
I'm wondering if the book was drastically different or at least revised. The Tuacahn production was pretty straightforward and staged in a large amphitheater so the design was large scale like the West End production looks to be shaping up to be. The pictures from Theatre Works do look like the production was very sparse and presentational. I imagine the book must have been revised somewhat to adjust for the change in scale.
CATSNYrevival said: "JennH said: "P of E, at least what I saw at T.W. was basically a travesty and much of it missed the point to why the movie is a much beloved masterpiece. Of course I can't speak on the book for any other production after T.W. but if they didn't overhaul it, it's gonna have a rough road if they're gonna take it to NY, and it's seems like that's the plan considering this West End production, limited though it may be."
I'm wondering if the book was drastically different or at least revised. TheTuacahn production was pretty straightforward and staged in a large amphitheater so thedesign was large scalelike the West End production looks to be shaping up to be.Thepictures from Theatre Works do look like the production was very sparse and presentational.I imagine the book must have been revised somewhat to adjust for the change in scale."
It was VERY sparse and more REPresentationl than anything, it was strange mix of both actually. Some parts were more presentational and others were more abstract. Never a good thing, as it leads to a show identity crisis. I distinctly remember my brother laughing at how people were playing the chariots and burning bush. I did too, honestly...
Same way many screenwriters have messed up their own work when translating it to the stage? Frozen's screenplay was never all that great, but Lee made it even worse on stage. Some writers can write for one medium but not the other.
But the T.W. script was changed entirely from the film when it didn't need it. That screenplay is a marvel. I daresay it's also the Schwartz's having imput, since as always, they're trying to not just rehash the film on stage, they're always trying to differentiate them. Which as a general practice in translation is fine, but as I've always said, P of E is already so good already that it doesn't need much change, if any at all. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The script was pretty trite and lacking character development, but also it lacked a lot of focus on the TWO BOYS. That's what this particular piece is about, and that was another thing my brother noticed before even I did when we saw it.
Are they not using child actors for this production or have they just not cast them yet because of some kind of child labor laws I don't know about?
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I saw it tonight, and it's bad. The cast is great, but the direction is abysmal, this must be one of the worst cases of nepotism in recent theatre history lol. It's not just the lack of a real set that bothers me, but the complete absence of vision, creativity and stage-craft. Everything is done with projections, the plagues are only described (a part from a few globes of fire falling down at the end of the song, but it's the same effect of POTO) and the least said about the parting of the Red Sea the better
imeldasturn said: "I saw it tonight, and it's bad. The cast is great, but the direction is abysmal, this must be one of the worst cases of nepotism in recent theatre history lol. It's not just the lack of a real set that bothers me, but the complete absence of vision, creativity and stage-craft. Everything is done with projections, the plagues are only described (a part from a few globes of fire falling down at the end of the song, but it's the same effect of POTO) and the least said about the parting of the Red Sea the better"
Well, I heard the about Red Sea part and that’s actually incredible, but yup the community theatre direction from Scott is what we feared and expected.
I can not believe after 6 years, the book is still the same from CA and it seems like a huge mess from what I read. That Disney ending, omg!!! It’s too late to replace now.
Sounds like the Papermill Hunchback all over again. Still devastated over how absolutely amateurish and cloying that production was, after all those years of waiting. The nepotism has got to stop. Imagine that next we'll get Pocahontas with an ensemble of "trees" (it's just a burlap sack put on right in front of our eyes, is that CLEVER or what?!) who pave over the entire show with school pageant narration.
And there it is. I really don't want this transferring. It sounds like it'll get torn apart by critics there, and rightly so, because the same would likely happen here. And that gif tweet from Joe Punchbowl is an AMAZING way to get the message across and it uses a potent scene and lien from the ACTUAL movie LOL!
"That Disney ending!" Oh lord...what happened now?? I know how the TW production ended, and it was bad, but seems like it might have not been changed.
I’m going next week and getting nervous. I really was devastated how they butchered THOND at Paper Mill. The german production was miiiiiiles better and they couldn’t see that? And now its happening all over again..
Ramses and Moses literally make up. When they part the Red Sea, you know how the army comes tries to kill them and stuff? Well, Idk if they kept the war scene or not. But, Ramses is like, "Sorry." And Moses forgives him and that's it. Guess even the Torah and the Bible's message & point of how pride is the downfall of one's self is no match for another Wicked.
And I also found the "set" on a IG video and OMG, what happened to that gorgeous concept art?!
The song list, according to someone who has seen it:
ACT 1 Deliver us - Egyptian Overseers, Hebrews, Yocheved, Tuya,Young Miriam Faster - Moses, Ramses, Hotep, Priests One Weak Link - Seti Footprints in the Sand - Moses One Weak Link (Reprise) - Ramses, Moses Seti’s Return - Egyptian Court Dance to the Day - Tzipporah All I Ever Wanted - Miriam, Moses, Yocheved, Seti, Tuya The Laws of the Gods - Hotep, Ensemble Make it Right - Ramses, Moses, Moses in the Desert - Moses, Ensemble Through Heaven’s Eyes - Jethro, Midianites Faster (Reprise) - Ramses, Moses Never in a Million Years - Tzipporah Act One Finale - Full Company ACT 2 Through Heaven’s Eyes (Reprise) - Tzipporah The Naming Ceremony - Tzipporah Always on Your Side - Ramses, Moses Simcha* - Moses, Tzipporah, Miriam, Hebrews Deliver Us (Reprise) - Aaron, Hebrews The Plagues - Ramses, Hotep, Miriam, Aaron, Moses, Tuya, Priests, Hebrews, Egyptians For the Rest of My Life - Moses Heartless - Nefetari When You Believe - Miriam, Tzipporah, Young Girl, Moses, Hebrews Act Two Finale - Full Company