What "Flop" would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
#76re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 5:38pm
MERRILY WE ROLL ALONG - someone was saying it has been revised a lot but the major revisions were done for the 1985 LaJolla production. All the subsequent changes have been more like tweaks. The revised version does work very well, though I would add the opening and closing gradutaion scenes to "bookend" the piece. It has a wonderful score, coupled with interesting (flawed) chracters that I don't get why other far less interesting shows run years and years while MERRILY lives on as a such a flop. (I would apply the same comment to BOUNCE though it is still a work in progress.)
THE RINK - maybe it needs a smaller theatre, a more intimate production but it does NOT need any major re-writing.
STEEL PIER does need some rewriting but like both of the above has too fine a score to dismiss.
THE HAPPIEST GIRL IN THE WORLD - I never saw this but from the cast album and the larrely positive reviews it got in 1961, it should have been a big hit.
A TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN - perhaps too old fashioned for modern audiences but a fine score and a really solid book.
There are other flop shows with wonderful scores preserved on cast albums, but you can see why they failed: DEAR WORLD (the score and the book do not belong together); ANYA (intresting use of Rachmaninov's music ... but a really bad book); SUBWASY ARE FOR SLEEPING (speaking of really abd books!) and BAKER STREET (just plain dull.)
Cast albums are NOT "soundtracks."
Live theatre does not use a "soundtrack." If it did, it wouldn't be live theatre!
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#77re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 5:50pm
Carrie!
#78re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 5:54pm
1) THE GOLDEN APPLE (Surprised that more people aren't mentioning this one!)
2) MACK AND MABEL
3) BABY
4) THE HUMAN COMEDY
5) THE ROBBER BRIDEGROOM
#79re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 5:56pm"The Robber Bridegroom" is definitely due for a new staging. I think Marc Kudisch and Alice Ripley would be perfect for it.
#80re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 6:05pm
OH YES!!! Mack and Mabel!! I read that the Goodspeed Opera reworked the problem areas last year!
Also Taboo...
#81re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 6:15pm
1. Little Women
2. You're a Good Man Charlie Brown
3. Seussical
4. Tommy(wasn't a flop, but hasn't been on Broadway in years)
5. Parade
CJR
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/14/03
#82re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 6:26pmHollywood Arms
If in Heaven you don't excel, you can always party down in hell...
#83re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 6:46pmTom Sawyer, just cuz a friend was in it.
#84re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 7:01pm
T to the A to the B to the O to the O
ahem?
TABOO!!!!
lvpblues
Broadway Star Joined: 2/18/04
#85re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 7:22pm
A Time For Singing
Amour
Parade
The Girl Who Came to Supper/Sail Away (I enjoy both scores)
The Grass Harp (it's charming)
runners up include
Donnybrook!
Mack & Mabel
Street Scene
Mack & Mabel
Juno
#86re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 7:56pmCJR, I totally agree with you about "Hollywood Arms". Such a beautiful, moving play. Michele Pawk would have to reprise her Tony-winning role, of course.
CJR
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/14/03
#87re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 8:17pmOf course. It would have to be Michele Pawk, Linda Lavin, Donna Lynne Champlin, Frank Wood...... I cant believe it was never taped.
If in Heaven you don't excel, you can always party down in hell...
#88re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 9:01pmAfter seeing them all three times in that wonderful play, I honestly cannot imagine others doing it better.
MUPPETinMA
Swing Joined: 6/11/05
#89re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 9:38pmStarlight Express should be shot down and killed. Given the right place, and enough special effects, it can pass as decent amusement, but I would never call it theater. It is an embarrassment to anybody who considers themself a patron of the arts
EganFan2
Broadway Star Joined: 9/8/04
#90re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 10:10pmThe Scarlet Pimpernel.
#91re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 11:01pm
Having discovered this subject on the board recently, several shows I would have named have already been cited, including Side Show, Triumph of Love, Smile, and The Robber Bridegroom. I would like to add the following 9having directed productions of two, and musical directed another:
-- Baby
-- Working (with updates)
-- King of Hearts
-- Summer of '42
gavrochegirl
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/16/05
#92re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 11:03pmSeussical
#93re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/11/05 at 11:24pmSorry guys, but I HAVE to say "Little Women". The music is just so beautiful!
#94re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/12/05 at 12:03am
SideShow
The Wild Party (LaChuisa)
both where amazing musicals that i love
#95re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/16/05 at 1:04pm
Musicals that I think can work given the right ingredients that did not work or never found an audience when originally concieved:
Carrie
Runaways
Sideshow
Working
Robber Bridegroom
Mack and Mabel
Taboo
Merrily...
Caroline or Change
That said, some shows never will be hits. Even if they are brilliant...Sondheim never had a hit.
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
erniesgirl96
Understudy Joined: 5/23/03
#96re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/16/05 at 1:10pmOh wow, I can't believe anyone else remembers Marilyn, I loved that show. I would love to see that and DOTV brought back.
#97re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/16/05 at 1:14pm
1. Taboo of course!
2. Civil War
3. Parade
4. Caroline or Change
5. Little Shop with a proper director/cast!
"Watching a frat boy realize just what he put his d!ck in...ex's getting std's...schadenfruede" ~ Ave Q
"when dangers near, exploit their fear" ~ Reefer Madness the Musical
exedore
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/20/05
#98re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/16/05 at 1:39pm
1. StEx
2. DotV (as said, revised to be back in line with the German productions)
3. Barbarella
#99re: What 'Flop' would you like to see given a 2nd Chance?
Posted: 6/16/05 at 2:29pm
Side Show
You're A Good Man, Charlie Brown
The Wild Party
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