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#101

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/12/07 at 10:46am

"Definitely Ragtime should have won.

The last great American musical built from the ground up"

AMEN! Mr. Roxy.

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#102

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/12/07 at 10:52am

About Tonya Pinkins.

You know they couldn't give all 4 female acting Tonys in one season to BLACK women. LOL.

It's a joke folks, It's a joke.

"If you've got something to say, say it, and think well of yourself while you're learning to say it better." - David Mamet

#103

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/12/07 at 11:12am

I am amazed how many people are outraged about performances they never even saw, save for a Tony telecast performance, or less!

I can honestly say that Sunday deserved to win musical in 1984 and Patti deserved the tony last year...but not in 1988, however wonderful she was, Gleason deserved that award.

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#104

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/12/07 at 12:09pm

"It's not like LaChanze plays the tuba, and I bet Manoel Felciano wouldn't have attempted a dialogue with an unborn baby."

I agree with the LaChanze comment, Patti should've won the Tony, but I disagree with Manoel. Christian earned the Tony that he won through his amazing performance as Tommy Devito. Don't get me wrong, both Manoel and Christian were amazing in their respective roles.

Sweeney should've gotten the Tony for revival, but it didn't cause most of the Tony voting committee or whoever who wins were probably more for giving the award to something more upbeat and happy, not dark.

#105

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 8:54pm

There is no way The Producers deserved half of the Tony Awards it received. And Will Roger's Follies over The Secret Garden, no way!

#106

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 9:37pm

Keith Carradine losing to Jonathan Pryce

#107

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 9:43pm

"No nomination for Ann Harada in Avenue Q"

Yeah.

"Have you heard Patti in Anything Goes? FanF*CKingtastic. She does a delicious job reinventing a role so attached to Merman. Her singing is delicious and she is this perfect blend of sexy and sassy."

Language, ahmelie.

"Just my opinion. I think Into the Woods should have gotten Best Musical over Phantom and had they both opened 15 years later, it would have happened."

Well, same thing could be said for Chaperone. If a show wins score and book, that is often a best msucal guarrantee.

"Last year, I really wanted "The Color Purple" or "Drowsy Chaperone" to win. "Chaperone" was just too much fun and "..Purple" just felt like a nice old fashioned musical to me. It made me think about "Purlie". I did not see "Jersey Boys" and may never see it. I grew up on Frankie Valli's music and I don't really care for "jukebox" musicals (Some argue that it really isn't one). I also think Bob Martin was robbed."

Amen about Martin and Color Purple.

"Will Roger's Follies" over "Miss Siagon" AND "Once on this Island" AND "The Secret Garden"."

It's Saigon. I think anything over Follies, even Island, should have won.

"2. John Tags- Avenue Q"

Did you see Hugh in Boy From Oz? He was amazing and portrayed Peter as Peter, not some guy acting as Peter. But I sill love John.

"There is no way The Producers deserved half of the Tony Awards it received."

Amen, but there was barely any competition that year. Jane Eyere? Full Monty? A Class Act?

Also, I think Seussical was robbed of nomination for sets, costumes, score ,Michelle Pawk, and Janine LaManna. How was Kevin nominated? And HOW did the Producers win Best Score?

#108

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 10:20pm

Full Monty loosing the Best Musical Tony to The Producers
Full Monty loosing Best Book to the Producers
Full Monty loosing Best Score to the Producers
Patrick Wilson (Monty) loosing Best Actor to Nathan Lane (Producers)
John Ellison Conlee (Monty) loosing Best Featured Actor to Gary Beach (Producers)
Andre DeShields (Monty) loosing Best Featured Actor to Gary Beach (Producers)
Kathleen Freeman (Monty) loosing Best Featured Actress to Cady Huffman (Producers)
Full Monty loosing Best Choreography to The Producers
Full Monty loosing Best Director to The Producers
Full Monty loosing Best Orchestrations to The Producers

"Y'all have a GRAND day now"

#109

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 10:25pm

Someone likes Full Monty...

#110

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 10:29pm

......and greatly dislikes "The Producers."

Even the most die-hard Producer fans usually will admit that the Best Score and Best Featured Actress Tonys belonged to Monty.

"Y'all have a GRAND day now"

#111

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 10:36pm

doodle, I can't believe so many people are outraged about an award that hasn't been strictly about performance/quality since it itself can remember.

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#112

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 11:37pm

Amen, but there was barely any competition that year. Jane Eyere? Full Monty? A Class Act?

I haven't seen A Class Act (but only heard good things about it), but I have seen Jane Eyre and The Full Monty (off-Broadway), and I can attest that those are two excellent pieces of Musical Theatre if there ever were two.

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#113

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/15/07 at 11:58pm

Sutton and Drowsy last year.
Spamalot winning over Piazza (Best Musical)

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#114

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 12:32am

-The fact that they even awarded BEST SCORE last year was a travesty.
-SWEENEY TODD losing to THE PAJAMA GAME for best revival
-Patti LuPone (SWEENEY) losing to LaChanze (PURPLE.)
-Ian McDiarmid (FAITH HEALER) beating Barnett (HISTORY) or Ruffalo (AWAKE.)
-Christian Hoff (JERSEY) beating Manoel Felciano (SWEENEY).
-Bob Crowley's (HISTORY) scenery beating Beatty's (RABBIT HOLE.)
-SWEENEY TODD not even getting nominated for Best Lighting Design

-SPAMALOT winning Best Musical over THE LIGHT IN THE PIAZZA
-GLENGARRY winning Best Revival over VIRGINIA WOOLF? or 12 ANGRY MEN
-LA CAGE winning Best Revival over PACIFIC OVERTURES or SWEET CHARITY
-Dan Fogler winning S. Actor over Matthew Morrison (PIAZZA)
-Mike Nichols (SPAMALOT) winning Direction over Sher (PIAZZA)

-Idina Menzel (WICKED) beating Pinkins (CAROLINE) or Murphy (W. TOWN)

-Denis O'Hare (TAKE ME OUT) beating Philip Seymour Hoffman or Robert Sean Leonard (LONG DAY'S JOURNEY.)
-Harvey Fierstein (HAIRSPRAY) beating Antonio Banderas (NINE)
-Marissa Jaret Winokur (HAIRSPRAY) beating Bernadette Peters (GYPSY)
-Dick Latessa (HAIRSPRAY) beating Cavanaugh (MOVIN' OUT) or Dossett (GYPSY)
-Krakowski (NINE) beating Masterson (NINE)
-Ashley Tuttle (MOVIN' OUT) being nominated of Benanti (NINE), Hoffman (HAIRSPRAY), or Butler (HAIRSPRAY).

-MILLIE winning Best Musical over URINETOWN
-INTO THE WOODS winning Revival over OKLAHOMA!

-Cady Huffman (PRODUCERS) winning S. Actress over Kathleen Freeman (MONTY)
-Christine Ebersole (42nd St.) winning Actress over Marla Schaffel (JANE EYRE)
-THE PRODUCERS winning best book over THE FULL MONTY
-THE PRODUCERS winning best score over THE FULL MONTY

-Heather Headley (AIDA) winning Actress over Toni Collette (WILD PARTY)
-AIDA winning best score over THE WILD PARTY

-FOSSE beating PARADE for Best Musical
-THE LION KING beating RAGTIME for Best Musical
-KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN beating BLOOD BROTHERS or TOMMY for Best Musical
-THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA beating INTO THE WOODS for Best Musical
-LA CAGE AUX FOLLES beating SUNDAY IN THE PARK for Best Musical
-THE WIZ beating SHENANDOAH for Best Musical
-TWO GENTLEMAN OF VERONA beating FOLLIES for Best Musical
-MAN OF LA MANCHA beating MAME or SWEET CHARITY for Best Musical
-...FORUM beating OLIVER! for Best Musical

"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson

#115

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 12:39am

Oh I also forgot to mention the fact that I was mad Aida wasn't even nominated for Best Musical! And the fact that Sherie Rene Scott wasn't nom. for Best Supporting Actress in Aida( even she said she felt kinda shocked about not getting a nom.)

Updated On: 3/16/07 at 12:39 AM

#116

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 1:55am

Patti LuPone not winning for Sweeney Todd

Ethel Merman not winning for GYPSY.

Kathleen Freeman not winning for The Full Monty (She was absolutely amazing)

THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA beating INTO THE WOODS for Best Musical

Harvey Fierstein not even getting nominated for FIDDLER due to the cancelation (sp?) of the Best Replacement Tony.

Jim Dale losing for THE THREEPEENY OPERA revival.

The Odd Couple revival not getting a single Tony nod. No, it wasn't fantastic, but Nathan Lane and Rob Bartlett gave amazing performances.

THE FROGS not getting a single Tony nod. I think the score at least should've been nominated, not to mention the book.

Even though I think THE PRODUCERS deserved every Tony it got, it tended to make people overlook the brilliant piece of work that is A CLASS ACT. Not to mention THE FULL MONTY.

many others. I could go on like the energizer bunny. lol.

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#117

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 3:32am

LESTAT WAS ROBBED

ESPECIALLY MICHAEL GENET AS MARIUS!

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#118

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 8:46am

Lynn Thigpen in TINTYPES gave a much greater performance than Lauren Bacall in DWOMAN OF THE YEAR.

#119

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 10:05am

Politics and Critics are the culprits for lots of the robberies on this thread.

Examples of politics:

The Into the Woods revival won because Dodgers announced a touring production the week the nominations went out. It never happened. Surprise.

Sort of the same thing with Avenue Q, but with a Vegas twist.

Examples of Critics:

Both Times critics panned Follies. Clive Barnes in the Daily and Walter Kerr in the Sunday section. I was looking through some NYT archives during the Follies opening weeks, and Jerry Orbach wrote an impassioned letter to the editor pretty much saying that Follies was the future of the Musical, and that the critics got it wrong. It was a pretty brave thing for a working actor to go on record against the two most powerful critics of the time.

But Two Gentleman of Verona was hip, of the moment and got great reviews. It's amazing how many mixed reviews Follies got.

Pacific Overtures also got lots of negative reviews, and many said the score was weak.

And then the SWEEP shows like A Chorus Line and The Producers were anointed by the press before they even opened.

The strangest thing about the critics is the number of times they've reversed their opinions from negative to positive after they've killed a show.

Usually it's years later, when someone like John Simon will write some crap about shows he originally panned with lame "well over the years I've come to the conclusion that I was originally too harsh on this now classic work." These folks never seem to comment on the literal cost of their incorrect original assessments.

But the most appalling example was Clive Barnes, who after trashing Pacific Overtures, and costing it both an audience and awards, re-reviewed it in the early summer as it was limping toward its close. In a complete about face he wrote a lengthy piece about how brilliant it was. If that had been his opening night review they’d have squeezed at least a year of a run.

Hal Prince even took out full page Ads in the Times with the reprint of the revised reviews, but it was too late.

#120

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 11:58am

Pajama Game instead of Sweeney Todd?! I mean COME ON!

"Not everyone can come and go by bubble"

#121

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 12:03pm

NLS, your choices are odd.

1. You didn't see Ethel Merman in GYPSY or Mary Martin in THE SOUND OF MUSIC. How on earth could you say that Martin didn't deserve to win if you didn't see either performance?

2. THE ODD COUPLE was so atrocious....THE FROGS was awful, too.

"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson

#122

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 12:12pm

Recently:
1. Bernadette Peters should have won for GYPSY
2. Sweeney Todd

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#123

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 12:26pm

I know some of you will disagree - but Stephen Schwartz. Come on, nominated 6 times, has won just about every other award a songwriter can, and never gotten a Tony. That's got to be some kind of record.

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#124

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 12:57pm

"Definitely Ragtime should have won.

The last great American musical built from the ground up"

...in Canada...

BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"

#125

Who Do You Think Were Robbed Tonys?

Posted: 3/16/07 at 1:10pm

Haha, Sum, I thought the same thing.

Elphie: Schwartz shouldn't win simply because he's lost before. That's horrendously stupid.

Plus, I don't think you can ever say that he was robbed.

His PIPPIN lost to A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC. No contest.
His GODSPELL lost to ANNIE. Again, no contest.
His WORKING lost to ON THE TWENTIETH CENTURY. Same deal.
His lyrics for RAGS lost to LES MISERABLES.
And we all know what WICKED lost to.

If you ask me, he didn't deserve the award one of those years...he'll win eventually, though.

"If you are going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy." -Charlie Manson

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