devonian.t said: "Add me to the list of those who love Passion- the last 15 minutes are some of the most rhapsodic and beautiful in all musical theatre- in the same way Sondheim channels such spiritual beauty at the end of Act 1 in Sunday in the Park.
I wholeheartedly agree, although I would add that the second act sequence from Move On to the end is even more beautiful than the first act finale.
Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco.
Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!
WhizzerMarvin said: "Ah, yes! Oh could I forget "I love flannel on a man," which I believe is followed with "it will complement his tan."
If Joe is out in California getting a tan by the pool, why is Norma dressing him up in flannel?!?!
I adore Passion. I think it's one of not just Sondheim's best, but the genre's best scores. For those not liking it, have you only ever heard it on disc or have you seen it in performance too? Doyle's production at CSC a few years ago is what really put me over the moon about it, so seeing it live really made me appreciate how effective it is.
I first listened to the cast recording on Youtube and I really didn't like it. Then, I watched the Great Performances video of the show and was just turned off even more.
Daniel Evans and Jenna Russell demolished me at the recent Roundabout revival. When she said "They are your words, George. The ones you uttered so often when you worked," I became a blubbering mess. It became worse when Evans continued: Well, the greens are a little darker. The sky a little grayer. Mud tones in the water. But the air is rich and full of light." Forget about it when the cast all bowed down to George singing then Sunday reprise! I can't even listen to it on my iPod in public because I start to cry.
Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco.
Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!
Scarywarhol said: "I never knew people hated "Little Lamb"! I always found it... inoffensive. And always liked, "I wonder how old I am."
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I was about to say that I think Little Lamb and the Rocky song were among the worst I could remember when I saw this. Then I thought about it. I think the issue with Little Lamb -- which I really do hate and wHose purpose I really do understand -- is that it is part of the Gypsy score; and, given the number of times most of us have either seen the show or movie or listened to the recording, nausea sets in when this particular ditty comes on. It is a song with a specific objective and when the objective is accomplished, repeatedly listening is hard, because it is so 'precious'. Just my opinion. So, even though I think it is one of the worst, it really isn't. I just don't ever want to hear it again.
^I recommend that you listen to the 2013 cast album (Judy Kuhn and Rebecca Luker) of Passion. It's an odd show that borders more on a surreal chamber opera, but the score is very beautiful.
I really want PASSION to be put on by someone near me so I can finally see it live. I'm another who has never been "into it" on disc but there have been many musicals that I didn't really get until I saw them live.
I'll admit Passion was a challenge but not close to "worst" anything on Broadway. And comparing Hitler/Chancellor and Passion/Tony is unfair and doesn't make sense. Hitler spoke to enough people who felt abandoned by their government - something that seems to be happening now with at least two of the three Presidential candidates...but that's for another thread.
I don't have a problem with Little Lamb. It's Mr Goldstone that I think is the worst song in Gypsy. I don't find the melody or the lyrics to be that strong, and I don't think a song is needed at that spot in the show. Mr Goldstone is the song I skip over whenever I listen to a recording.
"What was the name of that cheese that I like?"
"you can't run away forever...but there's nothing wrong with getting a good head start"
"well I hope and I pray, that maybe someday, you'll walk in the room with my heart"
VintageSnarker said: "" I never knew people hated "Little Lamb"! I always found it... inoffensive. And always liked, "I wonder how old I am." "
I think the first time I encountered someone saying they disliked it was a Seth Rudetsky video. I've always found it sweet and a nice moment for Louise pre-Gypsy Rose Lee.
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I absolutely agree, especially if we imagine the show with Ethel Merman in the lead. After 50 minutes of brass we need a nice, little ballad. And Louise is what--about 14--when she sings that song--and a very sheltered 14 given her "home schooling".
Mr. Nowack said: "I really want PASSION to be put on by someone near me so I can finally see it live. I'm another who has never been "into it" on disc but there have been many musicals that I didn't really get until I saw them live.
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I LOVE PASSION, but the record quite adequately represents the show. You won't get an epiphany from the staging. Just imagine the ugliest, brown set you have ever seen and spoken lines that are largely redundant. I think one could be entirely successful simply staging the recording.
(ETA I take this back. If Whizzer says he came to understand the show by seeing it, then I believe him. I, too, saw the show before the CD came out, so maybe that influenced my experience of it.)
mikem said: "I don't have a problem with Little Lamb. It's Mr Goldstone that I think is the worst song in Gypsy. I don't find the melody or the lyrics to be that strong, and I don't think a song is needed at that spot in the show. Mr Goldstone is the song I skip over whenever I listen to a recording.
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Apparently, Sondheim agrees with you, calling "Goldstone" a "one joke song".
I think it's there primarily to give Merman a third belter in the first Act. Otherwise, she sings only ballads between 'Some People" and "Everything's Coming Up Roses". Also, it represents a moment in which Rose believes her dreams have come true, so it would be odd not to mark it with a song.
"Using euphemisms to protect adults from words is the most condescending thing imaginable!"
Banning offensive words from one's vocabulary altogether would be the best protection of all for everyone. That goes both for those who post in on-line forums, and lyricists as well. It would make our existence a little nicer, and certainly, our theatregoing a more pleasurable experience. And we wouldn't have to suffer ghastly songs like No Place Like London.
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