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Zeta-Jones TONY chances take a hit

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#25Zeta-Jones TONY chances take a hit
Posted: 5/20/10 at 4:17am

Just to play devil's advocate, if you really look at the reviews, basically every one praised Glover's performance. I mean, go to stagegrade. Even the most negative ones made room to praise her "powerful" or "commanding" singing voice and/or her "elegant" or "sweetly straight-forward" characterization. And multiple reviews singled out her performance as being star-making and the village voice called her "a magnificent rescuer-in-chief" of the apparently sub-par material. Isherwood did call her out on the over-riffing and over-selling, but after saying that "Ms. Glover, beautiful and poised, brings a spark of toughness to her role as Felicia. She acts with a focused clarity and sings with intensity..."


Now, I haven't seen the show and I'm not in any way trying to debase the opinions of those here who did see it and didn't like her performance, but if you look back to the reviews, there's no reason her being in the running for the Tony should be a surprise.

And by the way, after reading all those reviews, it really is surprising that Sergio Trujillo didn't get nominated. Basically every one thoroughly praised the choreography, essentially they all called it the best part of the show.


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#26Zeta-Jones TONY chances take a hit
Posted: 5/20/10 at 7:38am

If Glover wins over Sherie I will loose an incredibly large amount of respect for Tony voters. I would have sort of understood for CZJ seeing as she would have been a huge ticket draw and was giving a good performance. Glover was no better than any other replacement leading lady in another show. She had a good voice but definitely not a performance I can remember. If anyone besides Sherie or CZJ should get it it should be Christiane Noll or Kate Baldwin with Montego just filling that 5th slot.

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#27Zeta-Jones TONY chances take a hit
Posted: 5/20/10 at 8:55am

And by the way, after reading all those reviews, it really is surprising that Sergio Trujillo didn't get nominated. Basically every one thoroughly praised the choreography, essentially they all called it the best part of the show.

I wholeheartedly agree.


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Gothampc
#28Zeta-Jones TONY chances take a hit
Posted: 5/20/10 at 9:02am

Let's face facts. The Tony people will never deny themselves a chance to gush over a Hollywood star. They want Cat on Broadway as often as they can get her. She's beautiful and talented. Plus, her winning the award will play well in Peoria because Peoria knows who CZJ is. Therefore, they will award her the Tony no matter what. The other ladies never had a chance.


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wonkit
#29Zeta-Jones TONY chances take a hit
Posted: 5/20/10 at 9:10am

Gothampc - and here I thought I was the biggest cynic on this board! Actually, I think you may be right. If Cat doesn't get her gold star, other Hollywood types may think twice about their chances, too, and apparently producers now think a West Coast type is necessary to open anything!

I love Montego Glover's voice but I wouldn't call her acting performance Tony quality.
(Whatever that menas.)

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#30Zeta-Jones TONY chances take a hit
Posted: 5/20/10 at 9:54am

Goth thats a good theory - except it doesn't hold true with the historical tastes of the Tony voters, who rarely award movie stars trodding the New York boards. As you say, if they were more welcoming perhaps we'd have more stars doing Broadway, but Broadway in this day and age in which you can't really find an audience without a major household name, loves to shoot itself in the foot but ostricizing the very people who can sell out a theatre - so my guess is that this year will be no different. I actually think Sherie Scott may take it because she fits the mold of Broadway rewarding its own over big name outsiders. For the record, as I've said before, I do think CZJ should win.

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#31Zeta-Jones TONY chances take a hit
Posted: 5/20/10 at 9:56am

But if Catherine loses, she'll never get a raise!


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#32mike douglas' wife will win!
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:00am

like they need to see her for her to win. i love when naive people think that reality mirrors their own little cozy world view.


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#33mike douglas' wife will win!
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:05am

Maybe the awards are subjective. No, that couldn't be.

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#34mike douglas' wife will win!
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:13am

yeah, and hollywood types never wins these things...nope.


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#35mike douglas' wife will win!
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:15am

My opinion is, if the big names are only doing the shows to win the awards, then stay in LA. let the people who want to be in a show, and would probably do a better job, be in them.

Gothampc
#36mike douglas' wife will win!
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:17am

"I actually think Sherie Scott may take it because she fits the mold of Broadway rewarding its own over big name outsiders."

Nice theory except for one small problem: Kristen Chenoweth. Kristen is a Broadway star and all she's ever been rewarded with is a supporting Tony for "YAGMCB" Not even nominated for P/P.


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#37mike douglas' wife will win!
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:17am

"Goth thats a good theory - except it doesn't hold true with the historical tastes of the Tony voters, who rarely award movie stars trodding the New York boards."

Exactly. Who was the last movie star to win a Tony? I feel like it might have been Hugh Jackman, who was still ignored this season for A Steady Rain. The Tony voters and nominators have certainly ignored their fair share of movie stars. Julia Roberts, Daniel Craig, Daniel Radcliffe, Kevin Kline (last win was for the early 80s Pirates revival), Sean Combs, and Ashley Judd just to name a few of the more recent crop of Hollywood celebrities to trod the boards.

Of course, this year they could fool us all and do an almost total Hollywood sweep of the acting awards (and I'm not suggesting by any means that this is the way it will go, purely hypothetical, or the way it will turn out according to Goth's theory).

Any of the Best Actor in a Play nominees ("Hollywood" by default)
Laura Linney - Best Actress in a Play
Kelsey Grammer - Best Actor in a Musical
Catherine Zeta Jones - Best Actress in a Musical
David Alan Grier - Best Featured Actor in a Play
Scarlett Johanssen - Best Featured Actress in a Play
Best Featured Actor in a Musical (the odd man out here, no "Hollywood" names)
Angela Lansbury - Best Featured Actress in a Musical (yes, she's also a Broadway name, but she is certainly not unknown to those who don't follow Broadway)

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#38mike douglas' wife will win!
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:22am

Let's face facts. The Tony people will never deny themselves a chance to gush over a Hollywood star. They want Cat on Broadway as often as they can get her. She's beautiful and talented. Plus, her winning the award will play well in Peoria because Peoria knows who CZJ is. Therefore, they will award her the Tony no matter what. The other ladies never had a chance.

I disagree.

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#39Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:24am

I agree with the earlier-expressed thought that this year's awards will be as easily forgotten and as meaningless as 1985's or 89's. Face it, no one but the most devout fanatic remembers what won in the best season, let alone the dreariest.

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#40Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:27am

Let's face facts. The Tony people will never deny themselves a chance to gush over a Hollywood star. They want Cat on Broadway as often as they can get her. She's beautiful and talented. Plus, her winning the award will play well in Peoria because Peoria knows who CZJ is. Therefore, they will award her the Tony no matter what. The other ladies never had a chance.

Unless, of course, those rubes in Peoria don't give an eff about the Tonys in the first place!
Updated On: 5/20/10 at 10:27 AM

Gothampc
#41Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:41am

"Unless, of course, those rubes in Peoria don't get an eff about the Tonys in the first place!"

Which is the whole point of awarding CZJ. Several times the Tonys have almost been thrown off broadcast tv and banished to PBS. The Tonys are always aware that they need to do things to get their awareness up. The glamour of CZJ will get the Peoria rubes to tune in.


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#42Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:54am

But the entertainment shows don't heavily cover the Tonys and advertisement for them, at least here in Colorado, usually doesn't start until about a week or 2 weeks before the awards. The other awards get heavy coverage at least a month before the ceremonies. So those people in Peoria might not even realize when the awards are on if they don't catch the commercials.


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Phyllis Rogers Stone
#43Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:56am

Do people really watch the Tonys just to see the stars? And if so, won't they have to watch anyway, then? I mean, I know everyone on this board KNOWS who is a lock and who isn't, but they don't give the award until the ceremony is airing, so said rubes will have to already be watching.

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#44Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 10:58am

Was this a scheduled absence? Maybe the Tony voters have already planned to attend other performances in advance.



If not, then they should just kick her down the stairs and be done with it.


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#45Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 11:00am

Chenoweth is irrelevant. She got bad reviews in a mostly poorly received revival.

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#46Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 11:00am

Was this a scheduled absence?

^No, apparently she was sick.
Updated On: 5/20/10 at 11:00 AM

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#47Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 11:15am

Well, that's unfortunate.

And the winner is ... Marissa Tomei!


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Brick
#48Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 12:31pm

Unfortunately, I think Sherie has no buzz. So few are talking about that show. (I'd also point to RAPTURE's two nominations to support this, but the nominating committee is, of course, a separate entity.)

And the LaChanze argument supports Sherie for the win. LaChanze was actually given around a 40% chance to win, averaging all the predictions. She was a veteran whom everyone liked, giving her best performance and carrying that show. (Patti was giving an performance many praised for its lack of star power, but true ensemble acting.)

I fear Montego may take it. The Tonys often like giving it to the young new performer, such as MARISSA JANET WINOKUR or SUTTON FOSTER.

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#49Why speculate?
Posted: 5/20/10 at 12:56pm

Plus, her winning the award will play well in Peoria because Peoria knows who CZJ is.

I don't understand why people keep making this nonsensical point. They can't advertise the fact that CZJ will win, so how will her winning attract viewers? Her nomination means that some people could watch because she *might* win, but then they are already watching.

Really, people, think it through.


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