any more news on the DRACULA concept recording?

[bwayondabrain]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 10:15am

i know there have been many threads about this, which i have read, but i originally read it was supposed to be released in March, but then i read on another broadway website (like talkinbroadway or something) and it said there is no release date yet...
anyone know about this? i would really like to get this cd soon!
thanks, and sorry!

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 4/16/06 at 12:10pm

I do believe Jeremy has said that the CD will be delayed again due to the "issues" with James...

[bare_nakedlady]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 9:37am

I got an Email from Globalvision Records today. Here's an excerpt.


"Dear Friends,

April 18 is here, and unfortunately, our release date for "Dracula" and "
Jekyll & Hyde: Resurrection" (at least in the US) had to be temporarily
postponed.

We acted a bit premature when we annoucned April 18 -- we're sorry -- we
won't do that again. We are working with many international distributors to
roll these titles out all over the world, all at once, and there's more to
it than "simply" sending the discs to the plant.

So for now, we are not setting an official release date -- but please know
that we are working on this every day, and hopefully the status will change
any moment now. We will be certain to notify you the moment the discs are
officially ready for release."


It goes on to say that they did release the J&H CD in Korea because of the concert. It has special packaging for Korea and is called J&H: The concert. It has the same content as J&H:The Resurrection. But the Korean Website is interesting to look at!
Click Here

Updated On: 4/18/06 at 09:37 AM

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 11:19am

I do believe Jeremy has said that the CD will be delayed again due to the "issues" with James

My exact quote, from April 7, 2006:

"We are not prepared to make a formal statement regarding James Barbour. We are just as upset and shaken up about the published report as everyone, and we understand the consequences and severity of the charges. As details surface and we hear directly from Jim, we will make our decision as to the future of the release. All I can say is that for now, we will not be shipping Dracula anytime soon, so I am sad."

And that's all I have said, or can or will say on this for now... We do not know Jim's status and releasing the album this month would have been irresponsible on our part.

As painful as it is to have your work in the can/on the shelf, we have to be patient and think about the big picture.

In the mean time, we're recording Cyrano! We already have 8 vocals done and our leads are some of your favorites... we'll leak some info on this next month.
http://www.globalvisionrecords.com/messageboard

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 11:26am

Gee, how awful this Dracula recording that didn't do right by the original actors is having trouble getting out there [sarcasm/].

Might have been cheaper sticking by them at this rate, hmmm?

[Anna_Elizabeth]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 11:39am

It seems as if Global Vision Records took on more than they could handle. It would have been much simplier to say that the CD was recorded, and we hope that it will be released, instead of giving date after date after date. At least people wouldn't be as disappointed as they are now.

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 11:46am

oh ghostlight2, do you really want to hash this out with me again?

As you know, our recording has little/nothing in common with the Broadway version - so the cast being Bway or not Bway has nothing to do with anything, and you know that...

Economics' only role in this was that had the Bway producers paid for a cast album, we wouldn't have made the concept recording and we may not have started our record label.

We are very proud of our recordings. Our work is about making listening experiences, not capturing or representing a show or staged versions. Do you understand? You don't seem to get what we're doing... (if you got it, you wouldn't keep going back to the same thing).

You may not like the idea or concept of what we're doing, but many people LOVE what they've heard. We are making theratrical concept records. The sole purpose is to listen to them and enjoy the music. Got it?
http://www.globalvisionrecords.com/

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 11:56am

It would have been much simplier to say that the CD was recorded, and we hope that it will be released, instead of giving date after date after date.

Yes, you're correct. We were misled by one of our distribution partners... which then started a chain reaction... That's why we pulled the date, and we won't declare another date until everyone and everything is in place.

Additionally, NOBODY could anticipate that one of our stars would get in trouble... since we don't know what's happening in this situation, it's better to pull it for now, then once things are clear, to move forward.

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:00pm

jeremy,
even though you won't answer my emails...i am here to defend you.
come on...jeremy is kind enough to give honest answers, quench ridiculus rumors and give up to the date info.
why do people feel the need to attack him. it makes no sense to me.

here we have the opportunity to have someone on the board who can be insightful regarding the biz and answer questions that you have...everyone can specualte all they want but jeremy knows the answers to the questions you have.

leave him alone already..i am sure that if they COULD have they would have used the cast of Dracula. they were, after all, the ones chosen to open the show on Broadway. things don't always happen as we hope...thats life...move on. its not JEREMY's fault or even Frank's fault for that matter.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:01pm

Got it, Jeremy.

I actually do like the music.

I just dislike the lack of loyalty to the actors, and basically making a buck off their backs (or trying to), behind their backs.

"As you know, our recording has little/nothing in common with the Broadway version - so the cast being Bway or not Bway has nothing to do with anything, and you know that..."

I know no such thing, Jeremy, and be honest. You never post on this board without shilling for something - nothing wrong with that, many people do it. Just don't pretend you're all about the art.

eta: Andrew, not a word of what I've ever posted has been speculation. I just don't dare expose myself since Jeremy has already once threatened to sue me. Two sides (at least) to every story. Don't assume either is gospel.

Updated On: 4/18/06 at 12:01 PM

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:06pm

Shilling? ugh........there is a difference between shilling and informing. informing people who are genuinely interested in what jeremy is doing.
in all actuality..HOW MANY people are on this board? i don't think this is the IDEAL advertisment! come on...
there is nothing wrong with using a message board (a THEATER message board, especially) to promote a project.
i have a feeling if you had to talk to Jeremy face to face about this you wouldn't say such things.
why is this necessary? another person in the industry to run off the board. WHY?

[chernjam]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:09pm

Jeremy -

first off - Congratulations on doing the recordings. Whether people love or hate Jekyll and Hyde, Dracula, Cyrano, you would think people on this board would celebrate the fact that people are investing time, effort, money into theatre. That some seem to celebrate delays, problems, etc reminds me of the nasty comments I read when I said how much I loved The Woman in White and then the delight some had when it closed. Sad that people can't just disagree over likes/dislikes but be happy for any interest that there is in theatre.

second - from the clips I heard on the website, I'm looking forward to hearing both scores. I have all three Jekyll and Hyde recordings, and never imagined buying a fourth, but you peaked my interest. Dracula I never had the chance to see onstage, but the clips sound good enought that whenever you work all this stuff out, you've got my business.

Good Luck to you and your team

Jim

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:12pm

i will definately buy the CD for James Barbour alone.
i hope and pray that things get worked out. he is amazing..it would be a real shame to not be able to hear him sing this music!

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:17pm

"We were misled by one of our distribution partners..."

Much in the same fashion the Broadway cast was, Jeremy (with or without your personal knowlege)?

"there is nothing wrong with using a message board (a THEATER message board, especially) to promote a project.
i have a feeling if you had to talk to Jeremy face to face about this you wouldn't say such things.
why is this necessary? another person in the industry to run off the board. WHY? "

Never said a word agauinst shilling, andrew. Just shameless shilling. I'm in the industry, am providing you information, and have nothing to sell, andrew. See the difference?

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:22pm

ghostlight2:

shilling is a strong word...

I don't read BWW every day, but my friends do -- and in the case of today, I was asked to come in and say something. If I were shilling, a) I wouldn't use my real name (I wish you would); b) I wouldn't take on tough issues; c) I'd be a cheerleader

I have participated in more than a few threads on subjects that I am an expert in (around the time of the Grammy awards, there was a thread that I was actively involved in, but nobody wanted the truth, they only wanted to bash Spamalot) -- if I don't have something to say, I keep my mouth shut.

Additionally, it's hard to be an industry person on a fan boad... but when your name is mentioned, sometimes you need to step forward and open up the dialog. Instead of talking ABOUT me, talk TO me. I have always tried to be accessible and a level-headed participant of the message boards... to call me a shill is a low blow and simply not justified.

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:24pm

Ghostlight--you may need to be careful of the words you chose to use... its libel and i can see why jeremy has threatened to sue you cause thats grounds! of course you won't say who you are...but you continue to put jeremy down. thats a little gutless in my opinion.
do you know jeremy personally? if you did, you wouldn't say such things.


Shilling ---One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.
1. To act as a shill for (a deceitful enterprise).
2. To lure (a person) into a swindle.


you're in the industry, we may even know each other..or OF each other..so i don't want to argue...but are YOU SURE that this is the word you MEAN to use...cause this doesn't describe jeremy's intentions one BIT...he doesn't deserve the attack..he is just explaining and being honest, which he doesn't HAVE to do!
i am friends with a few people who were in the Bway cast of Dracula..they have MOVED ON and so should WE all!

Updated On: 4/18/06 at 12:24 PM

[WickedGeek28]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 12:40pm

Oh, no. Another J/H recording, my wallet is so empty. I already have like 4!!!

[EganFan2]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 3:00pm

Well, I am certainly looking forward to "Cyrano".

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 3:09pm

Oh, no. Another J/H recording, my wallet is so empty.

You know, you could've stopped at "my wallet."

[sondheim78]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 5:16pm

Mr. Roberts--

As a representative of this beleaguered music enterprise, it might behoove you to put on a more professional face and not chastize people on this board, who are, in fact, your customers. I understand they are being needlessly shrewish about this whole thing, but I would be hard pressed to buy recordings from a company that takes such an aggressive and hostile stance with the public.

Perhaps your company should be prepared to meet the deadlines it sets for itself. Then your inability to take embarrassing public criticism would not be a problem in the first place. It is not due to anyone on this board's malfeasance that they are disappointed in your company's inability to deliver goods on time.

I support your enterprise and wish you the best of luck with it. I agree that people on this particular thread are not giving you a fair shake, and that you are only attempting to do a little damage control. It is your tone that I find objectionable. You won't win all of them over. State your case and be professional.

[BSoBW2]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 5:19pm

ghostlight - that's what I said a while back.

But I called it Karma. What goes around comes around.

We all know how I feel about DRACULA. But I just have to laugh at what's going on...and laugh I do.

P.S. Jeremy Roberts is hardly shilling. At least, he isn't doing a very good job of it.

[Jeremy Roberts]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 5:35pm

Perhaps your company should be prepared to meet the deadlines it sets for itself. Then your inability to take embarrassing public criticism would not be a problem in the first place. It is not due to anyone on this board's malfeasance that they are disappointed in your company's inability to deliver goods on time.

What part of "the star of one of our albums has been arrested, and the allegations are quite serious" didn't you get?

I think we handled it as professional and low-key as we could... we simply pulled the release. We are not passing judgment on the parties involved -- instead, we're taking the financial hit for the delay. We will wait and see what happens, out of respect to everyone.

We have nothing to hide... but there always seems to be a minority that has a need to stir it up...

We have received over 200 emails today from people supporting our decision to wait... without making any judgment... and I am proud of the position we took. I challenge anyone in business to deal with this kind of situation by a key member of their team, on a new product... what would you do in our shoes?
Updated On: 4/18/06 at 05:35 PM

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 6:51pm

It will be released to coincide with the revival of Dracula

I doubt it will ever see the light of day - pardon the pun

Updated On: 4/18/06 at 06:51 PM

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 8:30pm

I miss the La Jolla Dracula. someone revive that one...

[bwayondabrain]

Posted: 4/18/06 at 8:37pm

thanks guys for the help!
cant wait for this DRACULA cd! wish i could hear the samples now (on the website), but old computer, and thats all there is to explain :)

hope this sell this on amazon.com....