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#1

new houses on broadway

Do we think there will ever be new theaters built on Broadway? The nine theaters that were formerly Broadway houses are all seemingly unavailable for different reasons, so the only solution would be building something new. Would that even be feasible? I know people like Cameron Mackintosh and ALW have tried to buy the Hellinger, but that's never going to happen. I'm also curious about the exception that allows Lincoln Center to be a Broadway house. Could a would-be theatre owner not just petition to be considered a Broadway house and build a 500-seat theatre somewhere in Manhattan?

#2

new houses on broadway

There’s still that empty lot next to the Imperial on 45th street between Broadway and 8th avenues. I don’t know who owns that land but that seems to be a perfect location for a new Broadway theater.

Back in 2014 that’s where they placed the midtown Kazino tent for Great Comet.

#3

new houses on broadway

They definitely should build a theatre in that empty lot! Hell, they could build two if they wanted to. One on 45th St and one on 46th St. BAM! Two new theatres! Now the question would be, what will their names be? I know one of them should be named the Hal Prince Theatre. That man was such a legend and he deserves to FINALLY have a Broadway theatre named after him!


The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
#4

new houses on broadway

I noticed that lot when I saw Company... Does anyone know what used to be there?

#5

new houses on broadway

I don't know what used to be there, but it's a Shubert owned lot. There's been a rumor for years that they were going to build a new theatre (possibly two) on the lot, but it's never come to fruition.

#6

new houses on broadway

It looks like there was a theatre there many years ago. Look up the Imperial Theatre on Google and there is a picture the Shuberts put on there that shows there used to be a theatre there a long time ago. I cannot get the name of it though.


The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince

Updated On: 4/28/22 at 08:31 AM

#7

new houses on broadway

I found it! The theatre was called the Klaw Theatre. It opened in 1921. Owned by Marcus Klaw. It had a capacity of just over 800 seats. It was also used as a TV studio and was then demolished in 1954.


The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince

Updated On: 4/28/22 at 08:41 AM

#9

new houses on broadway

Ke3 said: "I'm also curious about the exception that allows Lincoln Center to be a Broadway house. Could a would-be theatre owner not just petition to be considered a Broadway house and build a 500-seat theatre somewhere in Manhattan?"



I don’t think the Beaumont is qualified on an “exception” so much as they are the only theatre who made use of that one facet of the existing rules; the Broadway theatres don’t HAVE to be in the theatre district, it’s just that most of them are, except the Beaumont.

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new houses on broadway

Last night was my first time going to the Stephen Sondheim. I was just thinking I wish there were more modern theaters like that one.


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new houses on broadway

JBroadway said: "Ke3 said: "I'm also curious about the exception that allows Lincoln Center to be a Broadway house. Could a would-be theatre owner not just petition to be considered a Broadway house and build a 500-seat theatre somewhere in Manhattan?"



I don’t think the Beaumont is qualified on an “exception” so much as they are the only theatre who made use of that one facet of the existing rules; the Broadway theatres don’t HAVE to be in the theatre district, it’s just that most of them are, except the Beaumont.
"

Correct, the Beaumont is not an exception. To be classified as a Broadway theater and thus have productions that play there be deemed Tony elligible a theater needs to fit 3 rules:

  1. have more than 500 seats
  2. be located in Manhattan
  3. have majority of the events that take place at the theater be considered theater pieces (plays/musicals and not concerts/operas/ballet/dance productions/circus/stand up)

Its the last one that disqualifies many of the larger theaters in New York, as they likely wouldn’t be able to sustain themselves financially on theatrical productions alone. (Radio City Music Hall, Hulu Theater at MSG, the Apollo, Beacon Theater, Town Hall, City Center, Hammerstein Ballroom, and most of the theaters at Lincoln Center besides the Beaumont).



This is why every so often a debate erupts as to whether the Apollo should petition to be declared at Broadway theater, and and possibly the home of a black theater company. The main drawback is always the fact that the Apollo likely wouldn’t be survive without concerts and stand ups comedy to keep the lights on.

#14

new houses on broadway

Do we really need a new house built, or do we need to simply revive what already exists? I think about this often.

Random: Is the Marquis the newest Broadway house? It is very nice, but I hate it being inside that hotel.

Anyway, I think the business of it matters and I'm under the impression that having a Broadway house is NOT a good business. A lot of prestige and power, it seems, but it doesn't seem to be lucrative unless the show is mega hit...and we all know how rare that is. I could be wrong, but when I think about how shows work, they seem to just be paying rent and expenses to keep the lights on, with the house really gaining from the box office when the show is TRULY selling.

I say all that because plenty of wealthy folks in the arts could've easily built or revived one. (Oprah? Tyler Perry? Robert Smith?) So why hasn't this happened? I think this is the question we should be asking...

Updated On: 4/28/22 at 12:01 PM

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new houses on broadway

Melissa25 said: "The Shubert Orgabpnization sold that property last year.
https://therealdeal.com/2021/08/17/extells-times-square-megaproject-inches-forward-after-82m-deal/
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I THINK Shubert originally wanted to build a new theater there. I seem to remember seeing the plans somewhere around the time the lot was cleared of those sheds, which are back, but it was then said what they wanted to do with it would not fit in the lot and the plans were scrapped.


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#16

new houses on broadway

I would love a new shiny Broadway theater with wheelchair access on ALL floors and larger, more comfortable seats and modern everything! Of course, that won't be happening any time soon...

#17

new houses on broadway

Yeah I remember reading it would cost like $150M to build from scratch, so they decided against it. I think two mid-size theaters would be much needed. I think they over-shot with the Marquis. Broadway doesn't really need BIG cruise-ship like theaters like that. Big stages, sure. But I think mid-size are always the best.

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new houses on broadway

bdn223 said: "Correct, the Beaumont is not an exception. To be classified as a Broadway theater and thus have productions that play there be deemed Tony elligible a theater needs to fit 3 rules:

  1. have more than 500 seats
  2. be located in Manhattan
  3. have majority of the events that take place at the theater be considered theater pieces (plays/musicals and not concerts/operas/ballet/dance productions/circus/stand up)."

Interestingly, being in Manhattan doesn't seem to be a requirement per the Tony rules:



(f) Theatres. In order to qualify as an eligible Broadway theatre, a theatre must (i) have 500 or more seats, (ii) be used principally for the presentation of legitimate theatrical productions and (iii) be deemed otherwise qualified by the Tony Awards Administration Committee. A list of eligible Broadway theatres for the current season is attached hereto as Exhibit A. A theatre may be added to such list with respect to a particular season only by action of the Tony Awards Administration Committee, which shall consider all requests to add theatres made by the Submission Date of the immediately preceding season, and issue any changes to Exhibit A by the June 15th immediately following such date.

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new houses on broadway

Dylan Smith4 said: "I found it! The theatre was called the Klaw Theatre. It opened in 1921. Owned by Marcus Klaw. It had a capacity of just over 800 seats. It was also used as a TV studio and was then demolished in 1954."

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