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Harpz2006
Broadway Star Joined: 1/3/08
bwaylvsong
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/28/05
#2re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 1:36amThat disgusts me. Guess who's not listening to the Cranberries (not that I've ever even heard of them)...
#3re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 1:38amSinging straight tone is very unhealthy for the the voice. A real, healthy vibrato is proof of the proper amount of tension in the larynx and vocal chords. There's nothing "disgusting" about it.
#4re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 1:38am
Here's the thing: It's a matter of interpretation. Nowhere in that interview (aside from the word 'theatrical') does she downplay "musical theatre" in any way, shape or form. I do fee, wholeheartedly, that she came off like a complete and utter tart. She could've carried herself better. "DISGUSTING!?" Hardly. It depends on if and when a vocalist KNOWS how to use it to his/her advantage (and, of course) the proper ways and means of the technique. Just my two cents.
LadyRosecoe
Broadway Star Joined: 8/4/07
#6re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 1:53amYeah, I guess its just a matter of taste. I, personally, like both vibrato and straight tone in a voice. Vibrato is just the beautification of a tone and makes it more pleasing to the listener. Same goes with any musical instrument really. Its just a "to each his own" I guess. Some singers love it - some hate it.
#7re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 1:57am
Actually vibrato, if one supports, can be removed. It doesn't hurt the voice if you're doing it correctly. Vibrato that comes naturally from emotional moments in songs is healthy and can be very, very moving. Nevertheless, there are times you want a clear, strong tone, too.
Vibrato, if you have it all the time, is lack of support, usually. One should be able to have control of their voice . . . to be able to belt when needed, be able to sing legit when needed or a natural mix and to feel the emotion of a song to emote with or without vibrato.
ohjustjake
Leading Actor Joined: 4/18/06
#8re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 10:19amI was actually told that vibrato is signs of correct breath support, not lack of.
#9re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 10:31am
She's a douchebag...the voice is an instrument. Does she find violins using vibrato "disgusting"?
idiot.
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SporkGoddess
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/27/05
#10re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 11:37am
Funny that she should say that, because Broadway is actually rather anti-vibrato. Plus, you straight tone and then add the vibrato: in opera, you could never do that and get away with it.
Oh... and yes, vibrato is the product of good technique, not the opposite.
#11re: vibrato in theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 11:59am
A lot of people just associate vibrato with theatre. A friend of mine posted a cover of a pop song she sang on YouTube, and people commented it was "too Broadway, eww", because she had vibrato.
It doesn't matter anyways - the Cranberries' singing is just breathy speak. She really has no idea what she's talking about.
#12vibrator in the theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 1:28pmi think that vibrators have no place in the theatre.
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roquat
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/25/05
#13vibrator in the theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 1:32pmThis is similar to the time Madonna's manager actually told an interviewer he wasn't hiring a music director for her last tour because "someone pointing at band members and telling them what to play gives you a Broadway, session-musician sound, and to me that's just boring." Not surprisingly, it was her LAST tour--and it sounded like a hot mess.
Mattbrain
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/23/05
#14vibrator in the theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 1:50pmActually, I'm working with my music teacher on how to produce a vibrato without my jaw shaking.
#15vibrator in the theatre
Posted: 1/16/08 at 2:12pm
You have to remember that she didn't specify Broadway. She just said it sounds theatrical to her. She is a pop/folk singer. Too much vibrato does sound weird in that format. She's untrained and is just saying that she likes the sound of a natural, untrained voice. I don't think she was trying to personally offend anybody when she says it's disgusting, she was just stating what sounds pleasant to her ear.
And for the people talking about the healthy techniques of singing...again, don't forget that we're talking about pop music. Look at most of the artists on our radio today. I would say the majority of them aren't classically trained and don't sing in the most healthy ways. And...they don't care. They just want to get the sound that they are looking for. What that does to their voice down the road...well...that's not their concern at the moment. Even Steven Tyler from Aerosmith. That dude does all kinds of crazy stuff with his voice and he did pay the price with nodes. He even let a news show follow him through his surgery and stuff. But he's back to singing like that (granted to be fair to him, he is in some training now, to learn how to achieve that sound without killing his voice). But you're almost comparing apples and oranges when you try to compare trained theatre singers to pop stars.
I'm not saying one is wrong or one is right...I'm just saying.
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