thoughts on "ignore", anonymity and reputational systems- Page 4

[Kad]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 2:53pm

When you come down to it, no solution will be elegant or perfect. The Internet giveth and the Internet taketh away.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 2:53pm

"to improve BroadwayWorld's quota of negativity"

The quota is about to reach its apex. I mean, papa's back.

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 2:54pm

"ghostlight2 ... so you are Patti Lupone. I knew it."

Oh, Like Patti LuPone would care, SonofMammaMiaSam.

No, I am, in fact, Nathan Lane.

Or I am Sparticus. I get them confused sometimes.

[best12bars]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:01pm

Namo, you're right about so many of these "gamification" efforts falling flat.

It's for a number of reasons ... the technology is still new, so unless your target consumer is under the age of 25, they aren't generating much (if any) interest. People with disposable income who frequent fancy restaurants aren't (currently) of the generation who would stop to rate their entree on an app to score points.

That behavior will change as the mobile generation gets older and as gamifying becomes more expected (which i cringe at the thought).

And consumers have already wised up to many of them and the whole approach in general. If the gamified feature asks for too much info in return for "not much fun," it will will quickly be abandoned. People are starting to see right through them. You have to really offer some serious entertainment value in order to pull private demographic info from many of them now.

[lovebwy]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:09pm

All this hand wringing and pearl clutching over a message board.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:10pm

I totally get what you're saying. Signs in favorite businesses telling me to "like us on Facebook" are causing visceral negative physical responses in me. No, I will NOT. I will tell you I like you and I will tell people I like your business when it springs up organically in a conversation with friends.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:10pm

Thank you for your astute contribution.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:11pm

And yet, lovebway, you do the same over any actress appearing on Broadway with a darker shade of skin. Interesting.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:12pm

i knew i forgot to add someone to my ignore list!

lovebwy...

[tazber]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:12pm

Stop it guys! lovebwy has "lots to contribute". Remember?

[lovebwy]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:15pm

Bye bye Carlos!

I don't dislike people with dark skin. I dislike people on Broadway who have no talent.

Updated On: 8/23/13 at 03:15 PM

[papalovesmambo]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:16pm

the quota is about to reach its apex. i mean, papa's back.

absolutely, g*ddamn, m*therf*cking right.

i prefer to think of gamification as the forcing of all posters to make their avatars photos of their own naked legs.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:17pm

"someone on this board who has issues with me has threatened to do their best to ruin my reputation should they discover my actual identity. I take that threat seriously"

I never said that to you, and the fact that you keep going on about it makes me laugh.

You posted something mean and I called you out on it. That's it, bottom line. Why you are making this into some huge thing is beyond me.

Let it go.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:19pm

"I don't dislike people with dark skin. I dislike people on Broadway who have no talent."

And they just happen to be black, right?

[suestorm]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:22pm

How/Why did the RACE CARD get thrown in here?

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:24pm

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TWO LADIES

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TWO LADIES

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AND I'M THE ONLY MAN..YA!

[javero]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:41pm

"That behavior will change as the mobile generation gets older and as gamifying becomes more expected (which i cringe at the thought)."

I agree and that's why I'm happy I'll be eligible to retire next year this time. At work there is this "new media group" dedicated to gamification and millennial ephemera that do zilch to enhance customer outreach at present. In other sectors, gamification is known as incentive-centered design which is a fancy way of saying the design of software agents that sell you shaite that you really don't need based on points awarded for conspicuous consumption.

Updated On: 8/23/13 at 03:41 PM

[ghostlight2]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:42pm

"I never said that to you, and the fact that you keep going on about it makes me laugh.

You posted something mean and I called you out on it. That's it, bottom line."

I'd address this privately but you've blocked me, Diva. You may find threats of ruining someone's reputation funny, Diva, but I take it seriously.

I did post something a few months ago that was indiscrete (it had to do with life coaches that I knew whose personal lives were wrecks, and I thoughtlessly named names. That's the extent of the "mean" thing I did. I actually feel very sorry for the people in question).

When you pointed it out, I thanked you and deleted their names instantly, and I begged you to do the same because you quoted me in your post. You refused, in order to "punish" me, since that was apparently more important than the life coaches' reputations. Fortunately, the mods saw fit to delete it. Ever since, you have been attacking me every chance you get, calling me a troll (and oddly, accusing me of being a mod).

I'm not one to publish private messages, but the mods have the ones that you've threatened me in, and the fact that you continue to stalk me on the board making disparaging comments about me having nothing to do with the topic speaks for itself.

That's the last time I'll address this publicly. I did not out you as the person who threatened me. You can open up your pms if you'd like to discuss this further, but in the meantime, anyone who has read this may remember this the next time you attack me in a thread for no apparent reason.

You want me to get over it - move on? Then leave me alone. I have nothing further to say to you on the subject.

[Kad]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:55pm

Didn't lovebwy start a characteristically pissy thread about his frustration with ATC?

[suestorm]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:57pm

this is part of what i was referring to when talking about the generation gap on this site between old and young. we just do things diff than you guys, as im sure you did from your parents and grandparennts

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 3:58pm

See... You have turned this whole thing around and tried to make it my fault. You posted something very rude about someone and I called you out on it. Then you wanted me to help cover your mistake.

That's not my job. I owe you nothing.

But when you PM me and tell me you know my name and use it like a weapon, then you ask for what's coming.

How you think that I have any power to be able to ruin your career is beyond me.

And I still have those PMs from you. Should I post them to show people how your tried to make this whole thing MY fault.

I never would have called you out if you hadn't done something vile.

[lovebwy]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 4:13pm

I simply told the truth about ATC.

[lovebwy]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 4:15pm

I'm gonna add that lady with her dog Skittles to my ignore list.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 4:21pm

Will the color of my skin factor into your IGNORE list?

[ARTc3]

Posted: 8/23/13 at 4:24pm

Again, bar12bars makes some excellent points. I would defend reputational systems by saying we don't know what sites like The Huffington Post, CNN, etc. would look like if it wasn't for the safety features in place.

Reputational systems are not very good at filter out dissenting opinions. Where they work best is in more "directed attacks" like the very example that has surfaced in this vey thread: TheatreDiva90016 and ghostlight2 have a very real and serious - at least to them - disagreement. A reputational system would very effectively bring this discord to the surface and in front of those who could arbitrate - the moderators.

And, this should happen. What is going on between them is hurtful and best cleared up, or at least stopped.

Anyway... all of this is moot. We're getting an "Ignore" button and I'm very curious to see how it works out. Mostly, I started this because I wanted at least some of the "nasty" to stop. My own feelings have been hurt here and I don't wish to have that happen again.