verbal abuse
silvia zacconi
Swing Joined: 1/11/19
#1verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 1:22pm
January 10, 2019. Last night before Anastasia started, a "manager" or someone from the theater security, came and got an Asian lady who was eating, the person in charge of the sound protested the smell, no problem with this, it's true you can not eat in the theater . But the way this man treated her was very undesirable, as if she had been a delinquent, made her stand and go to him, treated her worse than a child who had done something wrong. I wonder if it was me, for example, would I have been treated the same? I do not think so. He even took it out with his friend and made them sit elsewhere. Everyone around us looked at each other and condemned the situation, because it was very humiliating.
JSquared2
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
#3verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 1:45pm
How I miss the 70s when people had a sense of humor and ignored racist comments, etc. The things we laughed at and learned from on TV in the 1970s would NEVER be tolerated today.
Kudos to ABC TV’s BLACK-ISH and FRESH OFF THE BOAT for poking fun at stereotypes matter-of-factly and not having this whole exhausted race card agenda.
#4verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 1:46pm
JSquared2 said: "Great, another "racism troll".
IMO, she got off TOO easily!
I agree. Really getting tired of people thinking they are in their living rooms at the theater with no respect for those around them.
I would have had her throw it out.
"
#5verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 1:52pm
Based on these short details, I can neither agree nor disagree that there was "verbal abuse". There is not enough information here to say either way.
#6verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 1:58pmIf you want some abuse check out some box office workers on Broadway
#7verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 2:16pm
Am I missing something or is the OP imagining the racism part of this? I fully understand systemic racism but is there any evidence that being "an Asian lady [sic]" singles one out for prejudicial treatment in a Broadway theatre? I think the conduct in question (not just eating but smelling up a place that others will be sitting in for the next hour or more) is but one of a long list of obnoxious behaviors that some people seem to think is ok. Tarring and feathering seems like a measured response. (j/k in case anyone is that slow)
#8verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 2:23pm
Unless the white person next to them was allowed to keep eating their pulled pork sandwich, not sure how it's racist? The lady eating smelly food was Asian, so... the only variable we have is food eating being something they don't tolerate.
Niles Silvers
Stand-by Joined: 9/27/18
#9verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 3:19pm
BrodyFosse123 said: "How I miss the 70s when people had a sense of humor and ignored racist comments, etc. The things we laughed at and learned from on TV in the 1970s would NEVER be tolerated today.
Kudos to ABC TV’s BLACK-ISH and FRESH OFF THE BOAT for poking fun at stereotypes matter-of-factly and not having this whole exhausted race card agenda."
If only the targets of hate speech, actions, and "humor" at their expense would just shut up and go away, then we would all be able to live happily ever after.
#10verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 3:24pm
1. They SHOULD be treated worse than a child since the person in question was an adult.
2. In what way was her race any part of the issue?
3. At least she wasnt kicked out.
#11verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 3:26pm
silvia zacconi said: "He even took it out"
That's where he seemed to cross a line.
Alexander Lamar
Broadway Star Joined: 2/16/16
#12verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 3:45pm
I am confusion.
That is my response to this.
Seriously though, your willingness to tie this undesirable behavior to her race says more about you than it does about the theater staff and patrons who had to deal with this smelly food. Your white guilt helps no one; get rid of it.
UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#13verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 3:56pm
"the person in charge of the sound protested the smell, no problem with this". Yeah, because the sound people (Aren't they generally at the rear of the theater) thought the smell would affect the sound. Another person who just happened to join the board today to tell us about a horrendous act. Sorry, no sale.
Fosse76
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
#14verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 4:30pm
UncleCharlie said: ""the person in charge of the sound protested the smell, no problem with this". Yeah, because the sound people (Aren't theygenerally at the rear of the theater) thought the smell would affectthe sound. Another person who just happened to jointhe board today to tell us about ahorrendous act. Sorry, no sale."
You have very clearly never worked in a professional theater, because it is not out of the ream of probability that anyone working for the production would complain about behavior that has no effect on their job responsibilities. It happens all the time.
That said, being rude is not the same as being verbally abusive. However, it is possible that she had been warned previously about eating in the theater, and this was a last-straw reaction. Though I admit that theater security can be unnecessarily antagonistic, and this may certainly have been an overreaction.
#15verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 4:42pm
Guys, guys, guys. Don't you know that if people don't annoyingly and constantly play the race card ad nauseam, they lose copious amounts of woke points?
VintageSnarker
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/30/15
#16verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 5:26pm
JMPlayer6 said: "Based on these short details, I can neither agree nor disagree that there was "verbal abuse". There is not enough information here to say either way."
This. I'm not so quick to write off accusations of racism or bias. But this account doesn't provide sufficient information so it's mostly the OP's perception and the responses reveal the inherent biases of the respective posters.
Basically... what was the point of this?
#17verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 6:16pm
silvia zacconi said: "January 10, 2019. Last night before Anastasia started, a "manager" or someone from the theater security, came and got an Asian lady who was eating, the person in charge of the sound protested the smell, no problem with this, it's true you can not eat in the theater . But the way this man treated her was very undesirable, as if she had been a delinquent, made her stand andgo to him, treated her worse than a child who had done something wrong. I wonder if it was me, for example, would I have been treated the same? I do not think so. He even took it out with his friend and made them sit elsewhere. Everyone around us looked at each other and condemned the situation, because it was very humiliating."
Thank you for the first draft.
Please edit for clarity.
#18verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 6:42pm
BalconyClub said: "silvia zacconi said: "January 10, 2019. Last night before Anastasia started, a "manager" or someone from the theater security, came and got ?an Asian lady who was eating--what was she eating? .The person in charge of the sound protested the smell--'how did he do this and how did you know they were from 'sound'? no problem with this, it's true you can not eat[or breathe] in the theater . But the way this man treated her was very undesirable?, as if she had been a delinquent[how do they act as an Asian delinquent] made her stand andgo to him?---did he say--Hey--come here'? treated her worse than a child who had done something wrong--really? did he smack her?. I wonder if it was me--who is ME? are you NON-Asian? for example, would I have been treated the same--AS? I do not think/KNOW so. He even took it out?? with his friend-i thought the person eating was an Asian LADY-- and made them sit elsewhere[better seats than ours].. Everyone??? around us looked at each other ??and condemned the situation, 'vocally'? because it was very humiliating--to whom?
Thank you for the first draft.-------and now for my 're-draft' of the first draft
Please edit for clarity."
JustVisiting
Swing Joined: 6/13/16
#19verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 7:58pm
Does this post miss the mark? Yes
But what's with all the I-miss-it-being-okay-to-say-racist things and let's attack people trying to make society a better place for everyone takes? Didn't know this board was an extension of Breitbart.
UncleCharlie
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/26/16
#20verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 8:18pm
Fosse76 said: "UncleCharlie said: ""the person in charge of the sound protested the smell, no problem with this". Yeah, because the sound people (Aren't theygenerally at the rear of the theater) thought the smell would affectthe sound. Another person who just happened to jointhe board today to tell us about ahorrendous act. Sorry, no sale."
You have very clearly never worked in a professional theater, because it is not out of the ream of probability that anyone working for the production would complain about behavior that has no effect on their job responsibilities. It happens all the time."
Fair enough but I doubt they would complain about it so loudly that members of the audience could hear them. I would imagine in a professional theater, they would know how to immediately contact the house manager and let him or her know they need to deal with this without creating a commotion so noticeable that random members of the audience could hear them "protesting". Maybe I'm just reacting to my gut telling me this whole story... smells.
#21verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 9:41pmIm sorry you went through the trouble of creating an account today just to post this
smidge
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/16/06
#22verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 10:02pm
haterobics said: "silvia zacconi said: "He even took it out"
That's where he seemed to cross a line."
I also thought it was inappropriate that she was eating the person in charge of the sound.
Alexander Lamar
Broadway Star Joined: 2/16/16
#23verbal abuse
Posted: 1/11/19 at 11:12pm
JustVisiting said: "Does this post miss the mark? Yes
But what's with all the I-miss-it-being-okay-to-say-racist things and let's attack people trying to make society a better place for everyone takes? Didn't know this board was an extension of Breitbart."
False accusations of racial profiling are a detriment to actual ones.
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