I agree with Katurian2 and Scarywarhol. Seeing the show last week I was under the impression that most people were there to see a train wreck, but thankfully everything went off with out a hitch--no glitches whatsoever. Personally, I thought the first act was good but that the second act was unequivocally horrible (to those who have seen and/or heard about it, once they got the the “shoes scene” in the second act I clocked out.)
Yes it’ll probably get postponed yet again, and who knows if bringing in this writer will change anything, but at this point in time I’m sure anything will be an improvement on what has already been showing. Maybe Julie Taymor is ego tripping and someone needs to bring her down-to-earth, it is nice to see that they haven’t giving up hope yet because while others are wishing for the end I know that they’re trying something that others aren’t and that in this economy the production is giving a lot of people jobs.
There are some songs that I thought were good but the majority of them sucked and thus the good ones get lost in the mess of really bad ones. The whole Uncle Ben thing aggravates me too because when they show him he comes off as an ass and then suddenly we’re supposed to feel sorry when his death comes out of nowhere, yeah, not happening.
The set design and acrobatics were definitely an A.
The Acting a B. The singing wasn’t bad (even Reeve was good that night) and you can tell they’re trying their best considering the material they’re given.
The songs C-. As I stated before, There are some songs that I thought were good but the majority of them sucked and thus the good ones get lost in the mess of really bad ones. Overall it just seemed like U2 recycling old songs for this production.
The book I give a solid F. Though others around me were laughing I thought the humor fell flat. The second act is what completely ruins it for me. Had they just extended the first act or took someone like Eddie Brock and made him the Goblin's assistant who vowes revenge in the second act I would’ve been more impressed but that didn’t happen, so I wasn’t.
The book obviously need help and they seriously need to cut “Think Again” because that is one glaring weak spot. Either cut it or re-stage it, wither way it needs an overhaul. In the end, I would give the show a C+. Hopefully Taymor will allow others to give their input and actually listen because I want the show to succeed, I look at it and see such potential and knowing how many people it’s employing is also a good thing.
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I think it'd be wise to close the show temporarily and implement the changes during a rehearsal period instead of during previews. of course, that will never happen because that would cost them more money. but if you're going from the standpoint of what is best to improve the show, that would be the best option.
If they cared what was best for the show, they would have stopped Taymor two years ago and told her she was in over her head. All they care about is $$$$$$$$$$
1.) Roberto comes on board and re-writes script. 2.) March 14th, they announce the show is closing the evening of March 15th. 3.) Changes are put into the show the morning and afternoon of March 15th... 4.) The show performs their final performance on March 15th, with all the new changes....since the show is not technically on sale to the public (mostly friends, family, press, etc, al) no one from the outside ever gets to see the new changes (lol) 5.) Wait until Summer (after the Tony's) and then announce a revival come fall with the new changes that the public never saw that night from March 15th! Ads can say "Come see what you REALLY didn't get to see the first time around...get caught in the WEB all-over-again, Spider-Man returns"
I wonder if Vegas will take bets on the time of the delay announcement? It'd be fun for SOMEONE to make some money from this!
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They can take all the time they want now to fix the show, it makes no difference when they open anymore since the critics went in early, in a strange way the critics have done them a favor
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The critics definitely go back now. If they are going to be true to their statements about their responsibility to their readers, they have to go back and report on the changes when the show opens.Whenever that may be.
Other than that, did you enjoy the play Mrs Lincoln?
"The 'Geek Chorus' is kind of lame...should we cut it and try something else?"
"No."
"I have some ideas about beefing up the Peter Parker and Mary Jane characters...y'know...so the actors have something to do."
"Characterizations are not the problem. And what do actors have to do with this?"
"Hooo-kay. Tweak the music?"
*Appalled face*
"So why am I even here?"
"BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO FIX IT!!!!"
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~ Muhammad Ali
To be fair, in the Ultimate version of the Spider-Man comics, when Peter tells MJ he's Spider-Man, her reaction is pretty similar to the show. She kind of just says, "Oh- that's cool!' And then remarks she could almost have been Spider-man since (in this version) the spider landed on her first before Peter swatted it off. The really emotional one was when he told Aunt May... which in the show.... never happened. The MJ reveal was really fantastic in the 2nd movie though. I agree it would have been nice to have a moment like that.
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Well really, they would have to close the show for three or four months to make this work, AFTER it was on the page right - and after it was approved by all parties with a vote (Taymor)
Can't be goofing around with the thing too much in rehearsal, and gotta go in there with a finished deck on day one.
There's enough tweaking that happens naturally when the lines are performed and the actors bring their voice to it...
Would cost a boatload of money, but a boatload of money is at stake. Their are so many fundamental problems, to me anyway, that all the things mentioned here and by the critics are too much to fix while the show is running. Big book changes, which in a show driven by time code throws the whole thing off the mark.