.....do I want to see Jerusalem
.....do I want to see Jerusalem
jbm2
Broadway Star Joined: 3/26/11
#1.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/1/11 at 3:25am
Heading back to town next week and want to catch some more shows. I have seen pretty much everything thats playing....
Wondering if Jerusalem is worth seeing?
#2.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/1/11 at 3:40am
Words just fail
Don't miss it -- it is simply an icredible show to experience
You don't go to the dragon without a present - Mark Rylance
dramamama611
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/4/07
#3.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/1/11 at 4:52amCan't tell you if you WANT to see it, but the performances are insane. Mark Rylance and Mckenzie Crook are NOT to be missed.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
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#4.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/1/11 at 5:28amI am so excited it just extended so I can go again this summer! Go see this!
GimmeABreak2
Stand-by Joined: 4/14/09
Stand-by Joined: 12/31/69
#6.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/1/11 at 10:19amYou don't want to see Jerusalem, but your nose itches and you kind of feel like a milkshake.
bwayfan7000
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/28/09
#7.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/1/11 at 10:28amDefinitely see it, just prepare yourself. It's INTENSE. In the best possible way. Certainly not my favorite play of all time, but a completely unforgettable experience. At the very least, go for Rylance.
"Art, in itself, is an attempt to bring order out of chaos."-Stephen Sondheim
#8.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/1/11 at 9:37pm
Yes, you do.
I had a hard time getting into the first act because I really couldn't understand what they were saying, but as soon as I got used to the accents it was wonderful.
I know you.
I know you.
I know you.
WiCkEDrOcKS
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/13/04
#9.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/1/11 at 11:37pmI saw it this afternoon and really didn't get the hoopla surrounding it. It has some really stunning moments (particularly in the second and third acts) but I thought it was kinda pretentious. And, while I thought Rylance was wonderful, I hardly thought he gave the seizmic performance others claimed he did. I think Joe Mantello is giving a far better performance in THE NORMAL HEART. And John Gallagher Jr. was .. really bad. The set was incredible, as was the lighting design, sound design, and direction. But as a play, I didn't love it. It's definitely different and not for everyone.
#10.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 9:08amawww...go see it and decide for yourself if it was worth all the hoola
silversurfer2
Broadway Star Joined: 7/20/07
#11.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 10:29am
I loved the play and thought Mark Rylance was outstanding. And MCkenzie Crook & the rest of the cast were terrific. I thought John Gallagher Jr. was fine as well. Go and see it and make up your own mind.
WICKEDROCKS: What was so "bad" about Gallagher's performance? Just curious.
Updated On: 6/2/11 at 10:29 AM
wonkit
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/30/08
#12.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 11:01amI was also at yesterday's matinee. The set and lighting were some of the most impressive I have ever seen. Loved MacKenzie Crook, who is compulsively watchable and has wonderful timing (although someone give the guy a sandwich - he is SO emaciated). I thought Rylance was incredible (I missed both BOEING, BOEING and LA BETE, so this is my first exposure to him), although he sometimes seems so aware of the audience that I occasionally found myself thinking "Look at me, I'm acting." My biggest problem was the play itself, which could use some judicious trimming, especially in Act Two which seemed to go on forever and not really add much. I was so exhausted by the end of the play that the earthshaking ending found me with little energy or empathy to spare for Rooster Byron.
Smaxie
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/26/05
#13.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 11:14amIt's a very odd recurring thing that I've seen on the message boards: a requirement of empathy for the characters in a play. Not every play is seeking its audience to empathize with a character's situation and I don't think that's the case with the end of Jerusalem at all. I think this phenomenon is the result of too much simple-minded entertainment, starting with the disintegration of Hollywood film product in the late 1970s. Not everything needs to be boiled down to white hat-black hat good vs. evil simplicity. Johnny Rooster Byron is a much more complex character than that and the morality and behavior of the character is multi-layered and complicated - much like real life.
Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.
wonkit
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/30/08
#14.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 2:28pm
I said empathy, not sympathy. I don't expect to "like" Rooster - he makes that pretty near impossible - but I do expect to have an understanding of his plight that has some emotional weight for me as an audience member.
And it is possible to be empathetic towards evil characters - to understand their situation and motivation. Otherwise Iago would not be the thrilling character he is.
Smaxie
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/26/05
#15.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 4:33pmI think that empathy for the character is not the point of that ending. I think Jerusalem is a threnody for the loss of stature of a country and a culture. It's England here, but it could just as easily be the US or any once great world power. At the same time, the play is a plea for the wild, the natural, the untamed in a era of the homogeneous (the "New Estate" of McMansions encroaching on Rooster's Wood), while yearning for greatness, the mystical, the larger than life in a mundane daily life marked with hopelessness, desperation and dead-end existence. I don't care to empathize with Rooster's situation at the end of the play, but I was truly knocked out by what the play was saying at that point.
Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.
#16.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 8:00pmWickedRocks, I agree with basically every word you wrote
#17.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 8:31pmI disagree with two of WickedRocks' points. 1) Gallagher was fine. Not bad but fine. 2) Rylance, in my opinion, gave a superior performance to every actor this season. In my LIFE, it was the best performance I have seen. And just to put that statement into some perspective, I have seen over 200 plays in New York and over 100 plays regionally.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
--Aristotle
tamra2
Stand-by Joined: 1/9/07
#18.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 8:42pm
SAVE YOURSELF!!!!
i saw it this past weekend and honestly it was one of the worst pieces of theater I have had the misfortune to see.
Let me provide some general thoughts:
I do not usually enjoy plays, only saw because of Gallagher... the rest of the audience seemed to be enjoying
The set was great, and I also thought all the acting was great. Although I felt tortured during the show I felt like I was not watching actors but actually watching real life unfold as if the characters were real people (few exceptions with very minor characters)
I just do not get the point. It is three acts that do not "fly by" as most people would say. If i wasn't OCD i would have just walked out during intermission or even the "pause" but I cannot let myself do that
Many things happen in it that really can just be cut out... no point!
#19.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 8:48pm
Tamra2, what plays have you enjoyed?
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
wexy
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/19/05
#20.....do I want to see Jerusalem
Posted: 6/2/11 at 9:16pmI saw it Wednesday afternoon. Thought it was good but not great...Crook and Gallagher and Rylance is very good as well but it didn't do anything for me. Saw both La Bete (plus the original) and Boeing Boeing.
'Take me out tonight where's there's music and there's people and they're young and alive.'
