Well, I read threads like that because I really trust and value the opinions of many people here. I prefer to trust their judgement, since we have a lot in common, than some critics' reviews. It is not your fault at all I read the spoiler, I was just too quick, because I really wanted to read your point of view, since you know I value it highly
I knew that spoiler walking in, so the film is still worth one's money.
My point about avoiding threads stays.
I apologize, Greek. But, honestly, the film is still worth seeing. :) And, I didn't reveal enough to have really given everything away.
Don't worry about it, I told you it is not your fault at all. Thank God, I still don't know WHO you meant, so that's something ! And I am sure I will really love the film ! I have seen quite a few films knowing spoilers and I still enjoyed them a lot !
[Sideline note to Rathnat: this thread isn't about you. There are enough of those already. You've made your point. You have no interest in the film. Thanks, José]
I never said I have no interest in the film. I never said I wasn't going to see it (you didn't say that Jose, but others have to the couple of us who have responded with a differing opinion from the prevailing on this thread).
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Rath, My mistaken interpretation of your comment. I'm glad you plan to see the film at some point. I believe that when you do you will find something of value in it.
Updated On: 12/10/05 at 07:18 PM
meh i've lost intrest in seeing it, cant wait for KONG, lol sadly i think i'll connect and understand the story more
wow- playing on only 5 screens, Brokeback earned $38,309 per screen on opening day?
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2005-12-09&p=.htm
that is so awesome!
from oscarwatch.com comments about LAFCA:
It pulled a one-night per theater average of $38,000 Friday. A decent weekend multiplier will give it a weekend average of $100,000, 9th in the all-time top ten, right above Alladin, according to stats at boxofficemojo.
It will rank as the all-time champ for live action films, and by far the biggest indie ever. The previous indie record is syriana, at $74,900, two weeks ago.
"cant wait for KONG, lol sadly i think i'll connect and understand the story more"
That is sad.
Can't wait for this film. Tried seeing it yesterday, and it was COMPLETELY sold out at the theatre it opened at here in San Francisco. By the time I got to a computer to order for today, only the late shows were available and I can't make those tonight. So I have to go after work tommorow. I have heard amazing things about this film, can't wait!
I heard it sold out every show in NY this weekend.
Take THAT, Rent!!
I saw it today at 11:15am and it was sold out. When I got out of the theatre every show was sold out already except for the last 2 shows at night (and I am sure they sold out soon after). This was a beautiful film that has stuck with me the entire day and I am sure will for some time. I was sobbing (although I am kind of a sap so I tend to cry at most movies... hehe) and couldn't move at the end. I just sat there through the entire credits before I could get up. What an experience! I can't wait to go see it again.
meh i'm still rooting for the big monkey
It's hardly a spoiler to indicate that the film doesn't have a happy ending. Every article I've read refers to it as a tragic love story. How that tragedy unfolds is something I will not reveal here; even knowing that the film would not end happily, the reason for that still came as a jolt to me, and I will not elaborate, for obvious reasons. Though yes, I did cry before the final credits, I understand the reaction that it's after the film fades to black that the impact is strongest. I have already read some idiotic comments by closed minded people blinded by their "religious" misconceptions regarding gay people, but I believe that there are amny more whose minds and hearts will be changed, even ever so slightly. Is it too much to ask that Brokeback Mountain will enable a greater number of people to understand and support gay couples' fight for marriage equality? If ever two people should have been married for life, it is Jack Twist and Ennis, in Brokeback Mountain. I don't think any gay person should feel obligated to see this film, but it's hard for me to imagine a gay man or woman not wanting to see it. Yes, it's sad, but sad in a romantic Romeo and Juliet kind of way, and I don't know of too many people who'd refuse to see R&J because they don't live happily ever after. At the same time, it's not a film I want to rush out to see again, at least not right away. Too many tears might prove too much for me. :)
Updated On: 12/11/05 at 10:47 PM
Eslgr8, I actually cannot WAIT to see the film again. I was actually at the same theatre tonight (to see Narnia) and the showings were still selling well (on a Sunday night, no less!) AND I still found myself reliving moments in the film. There are times when I just absolutely feel I have to rush back and see it immediately. Sadly, there are other films I want to see and so it will probably be a few weeks, but I will return to Brokeback Mountain. Many times, I hope. I discovered something within myself, a connection to the physical place where they work that summer, that sent shivers down my spine on the subway home tonight.
This is a remarkable film, one that has stayed with me long after I viewed it.
I hear Nicole Kidman whispering, "Come back. Come back to Brokeback Mountain."
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The movie is perfectly fine but it really does suffer from a lack of passion and does resemble a homoerotic SAME TIME, NEXT YEAR as some critics have suggested. Personally, I would have liked to see what these two characters found to talk about in all their years together---what is the basis of their attraction besides the physical? It's never dramatized or particularized and, as a result, the movie becomes pure soap opera in its last third and veers toward camp. Frankly, I find MAKING LOVE with Michael Ontkean and Harry Hamlin far more moving and interesting in its narrative.
Jerusha Bromley
Walpole, Massachusetts
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Steven - this may came as a shock to you, but not everyone wants or needs to wallow in some tragic pit of unfulfillment. THIS gay man - and I ASSUME it's alright with your high-and-mighty, over-politicized gay mafia ridiculousness that I actually have the GALL to refer to myself as a gay man - has no desire to subject myself to the story of two people who's love wasn't strong enough to overcome their fears. I said I'll give them my money, because I DO think it's important for this type of effort and project to be supported - but that DOESN'T mean that I have to embrace the storyline as 'the greatest story ever told'.
Like the movie all you want - adore it even - sing its praises to the rooftops! But your backhanded dismissal and judgement of anyone who doesn't share your oh-so-exalted opinion - just like that of those who won't come out of the closet because YOU think they should - is obnoxious, overbearing and downright rude. If your position is what you think will make someone accept gay people better, then you are sadly mistaken. I'M gay - and out and proud, thank you - and all your posturing turns me off completely.
I got my tickets Friday for a Saturday showing. When I got to the theater at 11am Saturday, every since showing was sold out for the day (and it was playing pretty much every hour).
I loved it, loved it, loved it though. I didn't think I'd ever love Heath Ledger before this movie, but now I adore him.
"....it's hard for me to imagine a gay man or woman not wanting to see it."
That's what makes gay people so wonderful. We all have seperate tastes and we all like to do different things.
That's why our "symbol" is the rainbow, y'know.
I'm reminded of all of the press when "Making Love" hit the screens in 1983. A very different time a very different movie and yet it was an important film to me.
The other thing that I am reminded of reading this thread is something that I say often ... Something can't be shoved down your throat if your mouth is not open.
It is simply one story, of two very specifc people. Very specific. Love it or hate it, and everything in between, but it's rather ludicrous to impose on one artistic expression the burdon of being The Gay Story Of All Time. To see it or to skip it doesn't constitute a political act--or a requirement for keeping a gay identity card in one's wallet. Likewise, reactions to it need not become a new litmas test.
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Having stepped back and taken a breath (or two) I'd like to apologize to Steven for coming uncorked the way I did. No matter how I feel, that kind of personalized attack is something I don't approve of, and I'm very sorry to have succumbed to that kind of nonsense. And I can see how the statements he made don't necessarily have to have the strident tone of voice behind them that I was imagining in my head.
My thoughts were better expressed by the posts that followed the tirade, so I won't try to add anything else.
- SOMMS, MAKING LOVE was very important to me, as well.
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