Hillary Clinton officially launching her presidential run on Sunday- Page 2

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:10pm

But I care less about the underage prostitutes (I'm no prude) and much more about the corrupt cronies in their pockets, which are the Clintons' speciality. Right up their alley, along with O'Malley and Bush and Romney and pretty much anyone else except Paul and Sanders. 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:13pm

When Hilary's president, I wonder which form Limbaugh et al's misogyny will take?

[Kad]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:27pm

 

Wait. How was I in the dark about Martin O'Malley's hotness?

[HorseTears]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:31pm

"But I care less about the underage prostitutes (I'm no prude) and much more about the corrupt cronies in their pockets, which are the Clintons' speciality. Right up their alley, along with O'Malley and Bush and Romney and pretty much anyone else except Paul and Sanders. "

 

I guess we'll just ignore that Paul's a libertarian nut.  Look, I get what you're whining about.  Clinton is too cozy with Wall Street and major interest groups.  She's also more conservative than a lot of us on the left would generally like.  But, frankly, I think calls for Warren and Sanders etc to run are silly.  Sanders, of course, because he could never stand a chance of even winning a primary and Warren because, even if she could wide a wave of economic populism, will be far more effective where she is in the Senate.  The Presidency will require just as much - if not more, at times - focus on foreign policy and it requires every leader (no matter how principled) to compromise.  Far more than the political system requires a senator to compromise.  I'd rather have Warren stay where she says she has every intention of staying and to gain more power in the Senate.

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:34pm

There was no connection made in that lawsuit between Clinton and the underage prostitutes, just between Clinton and someone who had done time previously for soliciting minor.

Once again you are conflating stories and drawing false conclusions that have no basis in face.

And Paul who? You don't mean RAND Paul, do you?

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 3:42pm

The dark; O'Malley's hotness. NOW you're getting the idea, Kad.

He'd bring real meaning to the name Joe Sixpack.  He's a president I'd love to sit down and have a beer with.

[javero]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 5:46pm

How does Jim Webb compare to Martin O'Malley as a potential running mate for HRC?

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 6:02pm

No, PJ. I was referring to father Ron, who is absolutely batsh*t crazy but real, honest, and has little use for corrupt cronies & special interest groups. The same cannot be said for Clinton, or Bush, or O'Malley, or Cruz, or Rubio, or Biden, or Walker. 

[South Florida]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 7:47pm

It hurts to basically agree with Liza, really hurts.  I want the Dems to win but....

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 8:11pm

The "progressive" candidate will be a  war hawk in Wall Street's pocket. God this makes we wish we had a viable third party. 

[South Florida]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 8:19pm

Rand Paul is a Republican although he will be billed as a Libertarian. Bernie Sanders will never run as an independent or Socialist.  I wish I could be as confident as PJ regarding Hillary.  Can't see her winning.

 

[SNAFU]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 8:24pm

There has got to be a Dark Horse on either side. I see the GOP filling the Clown Car with the same old tired clowns.

Updated On: 4/10/15 at 08:24 PM

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 10:26pm

"I wish I could be as confident as PJ regarding Hillary.  Can't see her winning. "

 Can't see her not.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/10/15 at 11:59pm

I wish Hil had a comedy drag queen sidekick named Benghazi Foster.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 12:37am

Played by Dina Martina.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 12:43am

Genius!

Now, let's not waste any energy on another faux centrist mansplaining the problems with Hil.  Her husband's legislation is not hers.  And this talk of dynasties.  She is the wife of a president not the daughter of one.  Jeb is a president's son and would like to be his second son to be president.  THAT is what a dynasty is.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 12:43am

We need progressives in the House and Senate, to counteract the Tea Party conservatives.

But a progressive will never win the prsesidency, the way conservative Republicans pretty much know they can never win the general election.

only a moderate can take the presidency. We need a moderate Democrat who can win the general election, or els we'll get a "moderate" Republican, who will actually be a conservative.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 12:45am

As an aside, I really want Martin O'Malley.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 1:20am

“The time for a woman to serve as our President has come – really, now is the time – and I think the idea of having a former First Lady as the leader of the free world is really quite a marvelous notion. I want Hillary to win. Even though I admire two of the current potential Republican nominees, I have no interest in seeing either of them lead this country.” -- Nancy Reagan, First Ladies in Their Own Words, coming to The History Channel.

[dented146]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 3:23am

There are a number of moderate Democrats. Webb is one and he has character. Hillary's character will be the central issue that the Republicans will use as an issue. Since the email fiasco she has not uttered one word except " I'm a woman, vote for me."

What is her policy regarding the talks with Iran? How does she respond to the millions funneled into the Clinton Foundation, of which, little ever went to charities. How will she respond when she comes face to face with her unpleasant remarks about the women that Bill "knew" as Governor and President. What will be her attitude about her Wall Street profits. There is a ton of stuff and she has never had to confront an adversary about any of it. Obama didn't use it. And she still lost the primary to someone as inexperienced as you can get.

She is as tough as nails, no question, but there is little exciting about her. And ,so far, little vision. Her character will be the issue and if she folds on that then the Democratic Party will be saying, " What the ....".

[javero]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 9:18am

"Hillary's character will be the central issue that the Republicans will use as an issue."

It pains me to agree in print.  On paper, Webb is an attractive potential running mate for HRC and VA will likely be a swing state.  MD is solidly blue so O'Malley has little political capital with which to bargain with the Clintons.  I suspect that he's in it for a one-term cabinet position and a TV show afterwards.

However, I worry that Webb is too much the anti-Clinton for the Clintons and him to break bread anytime soon.  IMHO, HRC & Webb need each other even if it's a marriage of convenience.  It remains to be seen whether they're capable of doing a deal that needs to be done.

Now, onto the purely superficial...several Beltway insiders have been whispering that O'Malley reminds them too much of the Breck Boy from NC, John Edwards...I'm just sayin'. 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 9:45am

She's a warmongering Wall Street junkie. She is no "moderate," and those attempting to paint her as one are liars. She is extremely conservative with respect to foreign policy and national defense, as well as financial reform (hello, Wall Street) and immigration (do we not remember her suggestion to automatically send back 300,000 immigrant children without due process?). Those pushing for Hillary are so desperate to keep the Presidency away from a right-wing nut job, they're willing to compromise their own integrity. We need not settle for the lesser of two evils. We shouldn't have to. Until we reclaim D.C. from the corrupt cronies and greedy lobbyists, no candidate will be worthy. The special interest groups, from environmentalists to gun owners, are the puppet masters. And we, the American people, are the puppets.  Hillary is a danger to us and to this world... just as Bush (x2) was, as is Obama and Nixon and Ford and Carter and Reagan. Government is not the solution. It's the problem. 

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 10:06am

 

 

That Nancy Reagan thing is not real.

It's from one of those creepy Internet parody sites.

 

 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 10:09am

 

POLITICO: Bloomberg falls for fake Nancy Reagan report

 

MEDIAITE: Bloomberg Runs, Then Pulls Hoax Story About Nancy Reagan Endorsing Hillary

 

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS: Report that Nancy Reagan supports Hillary Clinton's candidacy is false

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 4/11/15 at 10:36am

I'm so sick of parody sites! A new one pops up every day. They should have to use a .par or something along those lines.