I wondered if Kate stole someone's identity when she returned. Because, if she came back as herself, she would be in prison, not driving around to meet Jack.
Interesting episode.
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You really found it boring?
I just can not understand that, it was easily the most interesting episode of this show I have seen.
YWIW, I think there are many possible explanations for Kate. Not the least of which being she just could have continued to hide, or there was some kind of redemption from the island.
It just caught me as odd.
She was on her way to prison for a very long time...
I did find the episode interesting.
The island is all about redemption though. If she got off I think her "soul" and therefore her "body" are both freed.
Plus the Marshal who was after her is long dead.
That was absolutely the BEST episode I've seen!
I totally did not realize that Jack was in the FUTURE until Kate met him. By the way, she is SO much prettier with the natural look than with all the mascara, lipstick, etc.
Charlie DID NOT have to die. He could have easily left that room and shut the hatch door, instead of locking himself in. What a waste.
Loved when Sawyer shot Mr. Friendly and said "I didn't believe him".....
And I loved when Jack told Kate that he loved her!!!
What I didn't believe was that Penny just happened to be trying to communicate when Charlie shut off the blocking signal. What, is she just sitting there constantly attempting to get through?????
Was hoping for a better mother/daughter reunion with the french woman and (name escapes me.....)
How tense was that when we thought Sayid, Jin and Bernard had been executed?!?!?!
LOVED the season finale!!
Charlie DID NOT have to die. He could have easily left that room and shut the hatch door, instead of locking himself in. What a waste.
He probably could have escaped, but Charlie believed he had to die for the second part of Desmond’s vision (Claire and the baby leaving the island) to come true.
I loved this episode. Despite all the new questions it raised, it was an insanely satisfying season-ender.
Although, there may be another scenario no one is thinking about or considering. If this island is so special and has all this power, what if Ben and Locke are FORCED to leave? What if the island is now officially off limits and no one has a say. There lives would totally suck off the island, as we are begining to see hints of. Locke would be back in a wheelchair, Rose's cancer would return and we would basically pick up where we left off before the plane crashed. Who knows what will become of Ben or even the French lady. I think we should atleast consder the idea that maybe life is better and easier on the island. Perhaps Ben is the only one who gets it. I say agai, I think Ben is one of the good guys (with unorthodox methods)
I think they will be rescued and we will see their lives now in a different perspective. Imagine, the series finale. The very last episode of its run having them all return to their shangra La. Of course, we still need to find out what the smoke monster/Jacob is.
I wouldn't say Ben is a "good guy." I think he is a complete ass but I DO think he is the only one who has it right and that he IS trying to protect them all in his own crazy way.
The island has made Ben a little mad. We all assume he is bad because Ben knows alot more and he's not sharing his knowledge/experience with anyone else. Even though I don't know for sure, I am guessing Ben has his own agenda and the island is his number one priority.
( I just want people to like me )
Popping in just to say, that first of all I haven't watched LOST regularly since Season 1, however I can't believe that they killed Charlie! I loved, loved, loved Charlie.
Not Merry, anyone but Merry.
That said Evangeline and Dominic now have a twist in their love life. What's Dominic going to do now, hang out in Hawaii unemployed while Evangeline shoots? The writers could have at least took their love life situation in consideration : P
This is exactly why I don't watch this show anymore. I can't enjoy the show because I am always too paranoid as if this person or this person or this person is going to be killed off, and oh yeah, because nothing ever really happens.
Its called suspense!
There's a theory going on that this was not really the future but the past and that Kate and Jack lost their memories in the island and they are just trying to make things right this time, kind of being involved in a kind of time loop.
This is mostly supported by the fact that in the flashback Jack's dad is still alive and is still a drunk. Or perhaps, when they get back to the island time repeats itself? Who knows?
It was easily the most interesting episode of the show.
I finally got to see it last night (Thank God for TIVO) and found myself amazed at the tap dance the writers did. See, originally, LOST was only supposed to run for three seasons, so you can tell, looking at the episode, that they had written this with that goal in mind but now had to make some changes to accomodate the fact that there's two more seasons to go. *That* was pretty cool, although it did have a whole "slam-bang" pacing that we rarely saw this season, as though we had to resolve a whole slew of plot points in one two-hour film. Had it indeed resolved the series, I imagine the flash-forwards would have been replaced with things explaining the smoke monster and other mysteries.
But they did confirm something I'd actually wondered about: the connection to LOST HORIZON. I never gave it much thought, but now I'm starting to think that yeah this was their model, and that yeah Ben is indeed one of the good guys for trying protect this place at all costs. That was a real head-wrencher.
And the guy in the casket? Ben, no question about it. I'm betting that Kate stayed with Sawyer. Juliette left Jack. And now Jack's trying to get back to Shangri-La.
This series just gets cooler and cooler. I cant wait to see what they do now that everyone's being rescued.
"This is mostly supported by the fact that in the flashback Jack's dad is still alive and is still a drunk."
Ray - this isn't necessarily true (in fact, in my opinion, I don't think it's true at all.) We never saw Jack's father. Jack went to the pharmacy with his father's prescription book. The lady behind the desk told him that she'd call his father's office, and he replied, "No, he's out of town!" If she called, she'd probably find out he was dead.
When Jack told the new Chief of Surgery to go find his father and that he would be drunker than he was, the Cheif had a look of "You're Crazy!" on his face. Perhaps Jack was so drugged that he didn't know what he was saying.
My 2 cents.
Well, it would make sense if they were caught in a time loop like Desmond. The island sent them back somehow to the past, and they have a chance to re-do things. Jack wants to go back to the island on the plane, while Kate doesn't feel she has to.
I suggest anyone interested in LOST to check out the official podcast on ABC.com. The writers gives us clues to so much. If you listen to a podcast from 3 months ago and then know what you know now you'll see they, in a rather settle way have given you clues to episodes. Having said that there are two things they have made clear.
1.) When you die on Lost you stay dead
2.) The comment Jack makes about his father in the flash forward was NOT a mistake and Jack was not drunk or out of it.
That got me thinking. We know Jack's father is dead but is it possible Jack's mom has remarried? Perhaps a friend of Jack's dads like another Doctor? Also, the guy at the pharmacist seemed to recognize Jack. we assume he referred to him as a hero due to the fact that he saved that woman's life but I wonder if he was refering to Jack being the hero of the Oceanic flight/or a survivor. We all know once rescued Jack will more than liely be the spokesman for the group. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.
Maybe Jack's father isn't really Jack's father.......maybe he just thinks he is or Jack thinks he is. In which case Jack and Claire aren't really brother and sister.
I don't want to sound cocky, but I knew something was up with that "flash back/forward" from the beginning. Jack looked older. And it seemed too odd that he was on another Oceanic flight. I don't have a theory about exactly what the "flashes" were but I'm curious to see how it all works out.
And as much as I hated Charlie dying, I thought he truly had a heroe's death. He had come to grips with the fact that dying was what he needed to do for the survivial of everyone else. It was a wonderful scene.
I'm just glad that the KRZR phone wasn't a big fat mistake. When I saw Jack first take that out, I was like, "OMG YOU PRODUCERS ARE STUPID," as the phone didn't come out until not even a year ago. I guess if I had stopped and trusted them, I might have figured something out before Kate showed up.
>> When you die on Lost you stay dead
I'm not so sure. Remember when Locke shoved one of the "bad" guys, the one that Desmond shot in the Looking Glass, through the fence? He was pretty dead. Then he shows up alive again a few weeks later. The island seems to be a tad discriminate.
And it wouldnt surprise me that the writers throw out the occasional red herring just to keep everyone on their toes. :) But I'm also wondering if, in light of the season finale, the show really isnt a lot more transparent and a lot less "mysterious" than it's made out to be. After all, we know pretty much why the polar bear is there. We know pretty much about the Dharma Project and what it was doing. We know the plane splitting was indeed an accident when Desmond screwed up the timer. The rest -- Desmond's loop, the smoke monster, those sort of things -- well, I wonder if theyre not set up to be just as clearly explained.
But whatever. Season 4 looks like it'll be fun fun fun till Daddy takes the T-bird away.
The guy Locke shoved through the electric fence was Michail. They explained why he didn't die. The frequency wasn't high enough and he just passed out. I thought it was sort of lame as well, but they did explain it. Happens all the time, people get shot but don't die until they either A) finish their mission or B) get shot somewhere not life threatning. Locke got shot in the stomach it appears and that was no flesh wound. I can only assume that Locke either had some fast healing due to the island or he is really weak and about to pass out. Who knows. How long til the season 4 opener again???
With Locke, my dad suggested the idea that he was shot in such a spot that the bullet WOULD have hit a kidney--except that it would have been the one he gave to his father. An interesting idea, but I don't think the wound was in the right spot. I moreso think the island just healed him cause it loves him.
That has to be my favorite Lost couple. Locke and the island.
I am pretty sure that Jack's father is alive in this new reality or parallel universe or whatever this flash-forward/flashback is. Also, on the abc.com LOST website someone mentioned that Kate was not referring to Sawyer or her husband (the one she left when she married him with a different name) but that she was referring to her stepfather. That would be interesting if they changed the past by returning to the land or something.
So according to the fabulous losteastereggs.blogspot.com this is what the obituary Jack read says:
"The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue.
Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim's loft.
Concerned for tenants' safety, he entered the loft and found the body hanging from a beam in the living room.
According to Jaime Ortiz, a police spokesman, the incident was deemed a suicide after medical tests. Latham (sic) is survived by one teenaged son.
Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Home tomorrow evening."
Which one of them is from NY? I can't think of who it could be. Maybe someone we have yet to see.
Okay, pardon my incredulity, but theres only one shot -- a side one at that -- of the newspaper article, and unless these guys are using reconstructive software that has access to the original prop, there's no freaking way they could extract that from the shot. It's simply technically not possible, even in high def.
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