"Finally, Hayes gets to his true point: â??I feel like Iâ??ve contributed monumentally to the success of the gay movement in America, and if anyone wants to argue that, Iâ??m open to it. Youâ??re welcome, Advocate.â??
See this is what bothers me.
I'd like to know what his 'monumental' contributions were, considering he couldn't be honest. He could have been a role model, but instead, he chose silence"
He is talking about his role on W&G, I respect his choice to avoid talking about his private life. But I don't think you can take so much credit for playing a role you haven't even written. Maybe he means he contributed by playing a gay character and be subject of jokes, etc? He doesn't sound very humble...LOL!
But JRB is correct, we shouldn't judge other gay guys in order to move forward.
Just in time for his Bway show.
Since no one reads the Advocate this story is a nonstory and since Sean is a nonstar then this is a nonissue.
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I am all for doing whatever makes you happy-so kudos to Sean. However, I am a little tired of folks coming out when their careers are clearly on the backslide or when they are facing obscurity, ala Lance Bass. At this point, what really is the contribution?
Plus the tone of the interview is very negative-if I were Sean I wouldn't be pleased. Sean comes across as very closed off, defensive, and unlikeable. It basically reads as "ok I'm gay, now go away and don't expect anything from me for the community." It's an awful interview IMO. I think interviews where celebrities complain about their fame are among the worst. Trust me, we'd be happy to let you fall into obscurity and you can have your privacy back-no one is asking you to keep working.
Plus, he starts out the interview by complaining how fat he is and by being overtly sexual with the interviewer-nothing like reinforcing more gay stereotypes.
I'm happy he's "out" but I wont be expecting anything more on the matter from him.
For the record I think "W & G" was a good sitcom but hardly groundbreaking. I know others feel differently.
Very disappointing interview..
Nonsense!
That was a non sequitur that left me non plussed.
You seem to be non compos mentis.
What if his coming out isn't a contribution, but just that thing all (or most) of us has had to do in our lives? Why does being famous demand that this becomes a contribution? That he did it at all should be congratulated. He doesn't owe anyone anything.
“The [press] wrote, ‘The flamboyantly feminine over-the-top gay guy Jack…’ But if you didn’t apply ‘gay’ to Jack, he would just be the crazy next-door neighbor who had girls in the revolving [door].”
so, if no one called jack "gay" we would all just assume he was charlie sheen?
"Why does being famous demand that this becomes a contribution? "
Nothing to do with being famous or not, but when you say things like:
"I feel like I’ve contributed monumentally to the success of the gay movement in America"
That's what irks me. But in the scheme of everything, this doesn't really rank up there as important. Yes, he came out, good for him.
But don't claim to have contributed to anything that you haven't really contributed to.
Diva, that's what I was saying, maybe W&G or its creators were somehow contributing to the "gay movement" because it was the 1st sitcom with 2 lead gay characters. But not him, nor any of the actors involved, they were just playing a role.
Well, do you know for a fact that he hasn't been contributing? Perhaps he isn't just speaking of being on one of the biggest lgbt shows in history.
And, his career isn't over. There's still much he can do to contribute--even if he'll never be able to please everyone.
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"Brothers," Showtime, 1984.
muscle, yes, I saw that you posted almost an identical post that I had already posted...
Jerby,
If Sean Hayes HAD been contibuting to the degree that he is stating, we would have heard. BUt we didn't.
What we heard was him beating around the bush about his sexuality for years. Only now that he's got something to sell, is he saying anything.
Not back when it would have made a difference.
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It could be argued he REALLY had something to sell back then, thoguh.
Lord knows I had my problems with W&G...particularly when it was airing. Those issues have faded a bit, much in the same way my issues with The Birdcage have faded. I watched it recently, ready to get my hackels (le?) up...and I was shocked how much I enjoyed it. Maybe I'm mellowing out in my dotage. Or maybe the more vaired exposure gay characters get, the more I'm willing to go back and watch things that irked 'Activist Rob' with a different set of eyes.
One thing I do know is that W&G was a constant presence as my nieces and nephews were coming of age. And they loved it. They loved Jack and Karen (Will? Eh.) It is one of a bunch of influences that has led to them all being not in the least bit homophobic. Actually, they're all incredibly homopositive. It was such a gift to be able to talk to my tween/teen family members openly and honestly, with humor and without any sturm und drang. And, I have to tell ya, W&G was in part responsible for that.
Yes. There are still issues I have with the specifics of the gays portrayed on that show. But that show also gave me a great gift in my life. So I can't totally hate on it. And I sure as sh*t can't hate on Hayes for navigating a really tough road. Would I have done it differently? I can say, without a doubt, yes. But his life is his to lead.
"Actually, they're all incredibly homopositive."
Then thank the writers and producers for the work THEY did.
Sean just had a great paying job.
I want to be clear. I am supportive of anyone coming out. Howevs, the tone of the interview is so negative. I mean why did he bother to do the article.Why not just continue to be out among his peers and live his life. He seems so disinterested in being there and made it clear that he does not feel that any of us have a right to know what goes on in his life?
SO AGAIN, my feeling is WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS INTERVIEW? Just go be gay in your personal life. I don't care. Be like the rest of us.
I'm with Robbie and Jerby on this one.
I never had a problem with Jack or Will as representatives on television. It was a step forward at the time and, like most sitcoms, wore thin by the end and was a parade of good to awful celeb guest stars (madonna and demi...barf!)
Ellen came out and her show was cancelled...a year later someone was brave enough to try again...and it ran for years and more people were shown that gay people arent boogeymen. Was it over the top? Alot of times, yes, but so are most sitcoms.
Would I have liked Will or Jack to have had a real romantic kiss? Of course, but there were gay people on the front porch and they were successful. I never had a problem with Jack's flamboyance because I know MUCH more flamboyant men, but I didnt like how dumb he was written.
And I also think his portrayal adds to what was on the page, otherwise what did we watch Sandra Bulluck pick up an oscar for last night? Best Screenplay?
Could he have come out a LOOOONG time ago? sure. I dont think he deserves to be run through the coals for it.
so, if no one called jack "gay" we would all just assume he was charlie sheen?
Remember whenever everyone thought Charlie Sheen was gay?
Good times.
"Then thank the writers and producers for the work THEY did.
Sean just had a great paying job."
As an actor who has had to make sh*t writing shine more than once or twice, I'm having a hard time not saying, 'F*ck you, Mary!'
With love, of course.
"It was just a job????
Oh good grief."
Yes. Because I totally remember Sean making statements that said he ONLY took the role to help advance the rights of gays and lesbians. That's it.
He was offerd a job and took it. Period.
So, now that Sean Hayes has publicly admitted that he's gay, how does that change anything? He's still the same person.
If someone is gay or straight, that tells you absolutely nothing about that person. Are they a good person, are they a kind person, etc...
W&G was a great show, and made all the stars of it a household name, with each of them winning an Emmy Award.
If it makes him feel better to come out of the closet officially and discuss his sexual orientation, good for him. It's his business.
LOL, Matt....
I've met Charlie Sheen and he is definitely not gay. Bi maybe, but not gay.
Namo, Brothers was one of my favorite shows! I wish Showtime would get off their bums and put it on DVD---it's only been 25 years! (though I have a few episodes on video)
I guess, regarding Sean Hayes, I don't care. I didn't watch W&G when it was on, though I have been watching the dvds and find the show really funny. I don't care if an actor/actress is gay, that has no bearing on the role they are playing. Am I wrong in this?
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