Xmen3 - The Last Stand **spoilers included**- Page 2

[mizzairee]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 12:18am

Yup, Moira was the woman in the video Xavier showed to his students.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 12:45am

How on earth did "I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH" make it into the movie?

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 12:54am

I hated this movie - I thought it was horrendous from top to bottom.

[Adam Chris]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 3:06am

To me this movie was like how Empire Strikes Back was for StarWars. It needs a follow up story for Prof X and for the rest school. It would be great if they incorporateed the Sentenials (sp??) in the story (even if Wolverine, Cyclops and Jean Gray are not central characters in the next movie.)

[Fan2]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 7:15am

>>How on earth did "I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH" make it into the movie?<<

Apparently that line was a nod to the fans since that's in the video game.

[Fan2]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 7:19am

>>According to a newspaper I read last week, the wolverine movie is going to be called "LOGAN'S RETURN" and will be directed by Bryan Singer. <<

No, that's a different movie. Bryan Singer is doing a movie called "Logan's Run" which is a remake of the old TV series from the 70s I think (starring Michael York) - has nothing to do with the Wolverine movie. Hugh said in interviews "Wolverine" is on it's third draft and they should have a director soon.

[smiles]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 9:21am

I haven't seen the first two and there was no way that I was gonna see the third one.....but there was a double feature at the drive ins and it was carload night so two movies for 4 bucks is a good deal no matter how much you think you would hate the movie.

I LOVED IT!!!!! I am normally not into those kind of movies but this movie was amazing! I got my X-men obsessed friend to explain everything to me before the movie so i wouldn't be so lost....and I had a few questions during but man it was amazing!

[cturtle]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 10:36am

is it worth watching to see HUGH? how much is he in it? or should i say how much of him is in it?

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 1:11pm

No, not even Hugh's beauty saves this clunker.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 1:15pm

It was worth it.

Why?

Five words:

SNAKES ON A PLANE TRAILER

[greeneyed_one]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 4:12pm

X3 was just your basic comic book movie. If it had been the only X-Men movie made I might have enjoyed it, but when it's compared to the absolute brillance of the first two it comes off as a smelly pile of wasted film. What happened to character development? metaphors to today's society? relationships between charcters? It seemed to me as if the writers said "should we have our characters work through their emotional problems?...no let's just kill them off so we can show more flaming cars! being thrown at the X-Men" I cannot believe this movie was made without Bryan Singer. It had so much potential...grr.

[Adam Chris]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 4:21pm

Snakes on a Plane.

That trailer was so stupid. I looked at my friend and just rolled by eyes.

[TheaterAddict7652]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 4:29pm

I don't know how many trailers of Snakes on a Plane are made, but the one I saw was hilarious because it actually made fun of itself. It was great.

[jasonf]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 5:23pm

I didn't get a Snakes on a Plane trailer before my X3!

And the movie had the parallels to today's society - you just had to dig a bit deeper yourself. The whole "cure" thing seemed pretty clear to be a metaphor for the conservatives saying they can "cure" homosexuality.

I heard somewhere that Rogue's thing was a parallel for deafness in society, but I didn't see that....

[TheaterAddict7652]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 6:29pm

jasonf, I saw the whole cure as a parallel to the Holocaust, especially since there was a direct reference to it, but the homosexuality parallel makes more sense.

[C is for Company]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 6:48pm

"metaphors to today's society?"

There are plenty. Ebert even stated how there were countless ones made in his review. I saw a lot in this one, more than in the rest of the other films

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 6:54pm

Yes, great amounts of metaphors to society today. It's unmissable and so blatant that it basically bashes you over the head.

Not to my liking. Whatever happened to subtlety?

There was also no SNAKES ON A PLANE trailer before my movie.

Just sucked. Horrible.

[greeneyed_one]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 7:22pm

I got the parallel between the cure and the cure for homosexuality but it didn't really go anywhere or have an actual message behind it. It was almost like an unfinished thought. I just think that the movie did not live up to its potential.

[TheaterAddict7652]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 9:00pm

Of course it didn't live up to its potential! If Bryan Singer had directed this instead of leaving X-Men to direct Superman it would have been so much better!

[DayDreamer]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 9:36pm

I really enjoyed the movie... alas, I'm not an X-men comic book fan, so that doesn't factor into my liking it. I like movies with lots of action, and when you throw in a good story - which is rare with action movies - I like them even more.

I had no idea about the 'teaser' at the end, so I left as the credits started rolling. I'll prolly see it again.

[broadway86]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 10:18pm

I enjoyed it while I was watching it. It was entertaining, and I was never bored. However, when I walked out of the theatre, it hit me how many opportunities were missed. So many enticing possibilities, so many interesting characters... Few of them employed to their maximum potential. Still, the movie has its naive charms.

Warning: This will be a very candid, train-of-thought review.

Part of the problem is the screenplay. It's written by the same people who did "Elektra". Need I say more? Most of the dialogue is awful ("If you're with us, then be with us" What?). I also wish that the writers followed through with what they started. What ever happened to that rather intriguing friendship between Rogue and Logan? What about Angel (Ben Foster), who should have had more screen time? What about Colussus, who certainly could have been featured more in the final battle? Was that really the payoff that the Jean Grey/Scott Summer subplot deserved? Where the hell is Gambit?!?! What about more depth to the relationship between Magneto and Professor X? These two characters have years - decades, even - of back story. Where is it? Thankfully, actors like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are around to do what they can.

And what about this "cure" that we keep hearing about? I was really interested, but there was very little explaining its creation. Nor, was there any struggle between the characters of who was to take the cure, and why. Rogue (the luminous Anna Paquin) seemed to be the only one of the group who was not only extremely eager to take it, but the only one who cared about the friggin' thing at all! I understand that the final battle was directly related to the cure and all, but there was no dramatic build-up to speak of. Much of the emphasis is focused on Jean Grey (Famke Janssen), and her transformation into the deadly Phoenix.

Another problem is the running time. I would have gladly sat through a two and a half hour movie if it offered any development of the ideas that the final product had raised. Hell, "X2" is one of the best superhero movies because it took its time, and it offered more than mindless action. Also, many of the characters aren't given nearly the time they should. Take Mystique, for example. It's almost as if Rebecca Romijn was in a rush to finish shooting her role, and they compromised at the expense of the script. And Rogue -whom, I might add, was being set up in the first film to play a major part in the trilogy - does nothing to speak of. And, I do mean nothing.

Yet another problem is director is Brett Ratner. I enjoyed "Rush Hour" and especially "Red Dragon", but this guy seems to have no clue how to properly block, light, and shoot action sequences (or, in this case, any sequence). Also, the pacing in this movie felt really off to me. There was never a chance to breathe. I would also like to know who gave these chuckleheads any permission to kill off some major characters. How could Stan Lee allow this? If the script was good, I might have allowed it. But, this is X-Men we're talking about here. Be careful who you get rid of, or the die-hard fans (like myself) will have a cow.

And can someone please tell me why Halle Berry's performance as Storm seems to change with each passing film? Berry is a gorgeous woman and a good actress, but if she's gonna make choices with her character, she should keep them consistent. In the first one, she was close to how I imagined the character. By now, she is just playing Halle Berry with white hair. Which brings me to another problem with this movie: You have a long roster of gifted actors... let them act!!! Very few of these talented and attractive individuals get a chance to show their stuff.

Still, as much as it seems I hated the film, I really didn't. Though I complain about the film's pacing problems, I can't ever say that it was slow. The damn thing moved like a race car, all the way to the finish line. And, as I said in the first paragraph, I'd be lying if I said I didn't have fun for the duration. For those who aren't as involved with the X-Men universe, and even for some of those who are, the movie is a harmless breeze. Hugh Jackman has always been the exciting force holding these films together, and he is no sloucher here. The only two other thespians in this one who gave me glimpses of what could have been were Janssen and McKellen, who is excellent as usual. Kelsey Grammer (as Beast) and Ellen Page (as Kitty Pryde) were welcome presences.

Overall, I'm disappointed. This movie should not have been rushed in order to avoid competing with "Superman". Now, I'm not going to name names (*ahem*Halle Berry), but I know that several of the actors don't want to do another one. One can only hope that the studio gives them enough money next time, provided that there is a next time. There HAS to be another one, if only to compensate for this one... Until then, the fans will be feverishly watching and waiting for the next boob to mess it all up.

PS - There was no Snakes on a Plane trailer when I saw it. I'm kinda pissed. Updated On: 5/30/06 at 10:18 PM

[Dirty Rotten Scoundrel]

Posted: 5/29/06 at 10:24pm

I saw the movie tonight and while I found it very entertaining and I really liked it, thought that parts of it were really weak. It had some really good scenes, but thought the plot was too vague and they tried to fill it up with action scenes and a lot of cliche lines. I didn't watch the end credits where they say that X is still alive, but in another form. Gah. I was bummed about missing that. But yeah, "Last Stand" you'd think everything would be resolved, but absolutely NOTHING was. It actually had almost no purpose. Nevertheless, I still enjoyed it, and Hugh hehe.

[Adam Chris]

Posted: 5/30/06 at 11:14am

If they do produce a 4th film it can't help to feel completely different than the last three (even if Bryan Singer came back to direct) since Halle probably won't be coming back to the role ( I think I remember reading something about that), Hugh probably wont return ( he would have made his own Wolverine movie) and Patrick Stewart, James Marsden and Famke are esentially written out of the movie. Also, Anna and Rebecca probably wont be back since Rouge and Mystique have been "cured".
That's why I think if they went back to the franchise it would be a X-Men : New Muntants flick.
But yes, it needs Bryan Singer to come back to put the story back on track.

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Updated On: 5/30/06 at 11:14 AM

[circusliz]

Posted: 5/30/06 at 11:55am

First rule of soap operas: No one is really dead unless there's a body.

And long-running comics certainly qualify as a type of soap opera.

So take heart all those who mourn for Prof. X, Scott and Jean.

[Fan2]

Posted: 5/30/06 at 2:14pm

I think the "cure" may not be permanent since "cured" Magneto moved that little chess piece at the end of the movie! They certainly left it open, didn't they? But you may be right - spinoffs are probably next - I'm pretty sure Hugh is filming "Wolverine" sometime next year for release in 2008. Plus to get a cast of that size back (and probably their salary demands) may not be feasible, so if there is an X-4 it may be with different mutants - although producer Lauren Shuler Donner was quoted once as saying she would never do an X-Men movie without Hugh as Wolverine.