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ErmengardeStopSniveling
#25A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/25/24 at 12:31pm

g.d.e.l.g.i. said: "Moreover, he's right more often than he isn't; the hostility at this point is frankly questionable."

for what it's worth, he was right about Maybe Happy Ending: I'm told it was in the process of shutting down and then someone saved the day.

As we've said with other things, sometimes these rumors are true at the time they're revealed, and then plans change.

If GATBY's process out of town was as rough as I've heard it was, and if Chavkin is in a bit of a vulnerable creative state right now, it makes some sense to go with a different director, whether that is Frecknall or someone else...a lot of people could do interesting things with this property. Marianne Elliott, John Tiffany, Michael Arden, Christopher Wheeldon, Justin Peck, George Wolfe, Matthew Warchus, Michael Mayer, etc.

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TaffyDavenport
#26A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/25/24 at 12:40pm

Let’s be real: the only thing about him that turns people off is his demeanor and presentation. If it was wrapped in a “nicer” package, no one would give 2 sh*ts about the gossip. Also, one thing he never does is criticize or fight people in his comments, which is more than I can say for the people on this board. By all accounts, he’s a nice guy with a bad rap.

Updated On: 8/25/24 at 12:40 PM

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KJisgroovy
#27A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/26/24 at 11:18am

"Also, the punctuation goes inside the quotation marks, a mistake people on here make constantly."

Questions marks don't go inside the quotation marks if the quote is not a question.

The Broadway Gatsby is a nice pop musical that betrays its source material. The ART Gatsby is currently a failed work of art. Hopefully they can make it a success.

 


Jesus saves. I spend.

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Broadway Flash
#28A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/26/24 at 11:25am

I was taught that the punctuation goes INSIDE the quotation marks.  In the context that Huss gave, it should be inside. 

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KJisgroovy
#29A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/26/24 at 11:41am

"I was taught that the punctuation goes INSIDE the quotation marks.  In the context that Huss gave, it should be inside."

They do sometimes. I can no longer see the post I was referencing but someone wrote "these people"? which was correct as the original quote was not a question. Adding a question mark changes the meaning of the quote. If that's not what you were referencing, that's chill, but there are many times where the punctuation correctly goes after the quotation marks. 


Jesus saves. I spend.

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#30A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/26/24 at 12:04pm

Oh it sounds like you know a lot about this. Are you a writer?

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Huss417
#31A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/26/24 at 12:46pm

KJisgroovy said: ""I was taught that the punctuation goes INSIDE the quotation marks. In the context that Huss gave, it should be inside."

They do sometimes. I can no longer see the post I was referencing but someone wrote "these people"? which was correct as the original quote was not a question. Adding a question mark changes the meaning of the quote. If that's not what you were referencing, that's chill, but there are many times where the punctuation correctly goes after the quotation marks.
"

That was from my post that for some reason was taken down. I have no clue why. Also thanks for clarifying to the person who was trying to correct me. :)


"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter." Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.

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Huss417
#32A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/26/24 at 12:50pm

Broadway Flash said: "No I haven’t, but I don’t like how people poop on bway gatsby. It’s a wonderful production and musical. And honestly, I think on the whole, the reaction to both of them was equal. Several people said they put them on the same level, one was not better than the other. Obviously one is more artsy and one is more for the masses, but there was plenty of criticism of the ART gatsby, the only thing people said was superior was the score, but had lots of issues in other areas, that could be one of the reasons they fired Rachel."

I would love for someone to explain this to me. This was the post I was responding to. All I asked was who the several people are. Why would that question be removed but the person is allowed to say it?


"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter." Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.

JasonC3
#33A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/26/24 at 3:32pm

Cuttuing and pasting here from Grammarly:

Place punctuation marks inside quotation marks

When using a period, comma, or exclamation mark with quotation marks, place the punctuation inside the quotes.

“We won!” shouted the coach to no one in particular.

If you’re breaking up a sentence, place a comma after the first part, also inside quotes.

“My goodness,” said my father, “take off your dirty shoes before coming in the house.”

Just like the use of single quotation marks, however, this applies only to American English. British English places punctuation outside quotation marks.

Do question marks go in quotes?

If the question mark is part of the quote, place it inside the quotation marks.

She asked, “Will this be on the test?”

If the question mark is not part of the quote, and instead the quote is part of a question, place it outside of the quotation marks.

Did they just say “free pizza”?

This rule also applies to exclamation points.

They just said “free pizza”!

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ErmengardeStopSniveling
#34A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 8/31/24 at 11:48pm

Our sweaty comrade is now alleging that Frecknall will return to direct, with Tom Scutt designing, and Christopher Wheeldon choreographing.

Wheeldon would be an amazing get for this, and would up my excitement by a lot.

(To be taken with less than one grain of salt, obviously)

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TheatreMonkey
#35A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 9/1/24 at 1:09am

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Our sweaty comrade is now alleging that Frecknall will return to direct, with Tom Scutt designing, and Christopher Wheeldon choreographing.

Wheeldon would be an amazing get for this, and would up my excitement by a lot.

(To be taken with less than one grain of salt, obviously)
"

....but would it be a "get" for Wheeldon? Just seems to me like he's trying to permanently move into the director-choreographer realm, at least in musical theater. Would he go back to "merely" providing choreography?  (Classical dance career, and your source of info, notwithstanding!)

And...I think you meant more, not less, than one grain of salt. 

Updated On: 9/1/24 at 01:09 AM

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raddersons
#36A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 9/1/24 at 11:50am

This really blew me away in Boston and it worries me to see them switching directors.

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ErmengardeStopSniveling
#37A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 9/1/24 at 11:59am

TheatreMonkey said: "....but would it be a "get" for Wheeldon? Just seems to me like he's trying to permanently move into the director-choreographer realm, at least in musical theater. Would he go back to "merely" providing choreography? (Classical dance career, and your source of info, notwithstanding!)"

It would be a get for the production.

I, too, would be a little surprised if he agreed to a show where he is "only" the choreographer, after doing such brilliant work on MJ and AiP. But he may want to stretch his muscles and focus on just one aspect of it. Sometimes people like moving between the two areas and collaborating with other gifted artists.

This could also just be the production's wish, not something set in stone.

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Robbie2
#38A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 9/1/24 at 7:21pm

raddersons said: "This really blew me away in Boston and it worriesme to see them switching directors."

While out here in the pines, our industry friends inform us that producers were not happy with director Chavkin and replaced her -going back to Frecknall and she's bringing on some of her Cabaret team along with Wheeldon.

Also, that producer Chunsoo Shin is moving swiftly on getting his Broadway Gatsby to open in the UK '25 before ART-Gatsby. The Broadway Gatsby has no plans closing and other productions are also in the planning stages.


"Anything you do, let it it come from you--then it will be new." Sunday in the Park with George
Updated On: 9/1/24 at 07:21 PM

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ErmengardeStopSniveling
#39A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 9/1/24 at 10:45pm

These battling Gatsbys are hilarious and I have to admire Chunsoo Shin for, at a bare minimum, his achievements in scheduling.

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#40A.R.T. Gatsby to London
Posted: 9/10/24 at 6:10pm

We've often cited WILD PARTY, but I just remembered another instance where dueling shows of the same subject matter happened more recently --

in 2013, two plays about LBJ were being developed: Robert Schenkkan's ALL THE WAY and Alexander Harrington’s THE GREAT SOCIETY. All The Way made it to Broadway, starring Bryan Cranston (and it got a sequel titled, funnily enough, The Great Society).

The big difference being that these two plays were based on historical events, not one official piece of source material.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/theater/lyndon-johnson-is-the-subject-of-dueling-works.html


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