A little math for ya: PHANTOM = CRAPTASTIC — Page 6

AMEN to that Eponine Thernardier

The only part in the film I liked is when she goes thru the mirror and Gerry looks back at her and he is smokin hot....which is, coincidentally, NOT what the phantom is supposed to be.

wrong on SOOOO many levels. It' s like watching my high school ten years ago doing the concert version.

I haven't read everyone's post so forgive me if I repeat anything.
I liked the movie. There were some things that could have been better like the inconsistencies with the Phantom's makeup and mask and the problem with a lot of the ADR. But overall, I thought it was good and I enjoyed it very much. To those of you who haven't seen it and may be persuaded not to because of the negative things said about it, I'd suggest you go see it so you can make the judgement yourself.

The morning before I went to see the movie, I watched the old original black and white silent POTO movie. I was surprised how similar the two really are (plot-wise, obviously not production quality-wise) It was fun to compare. When the new movie comes out on DVD, I'll be buying it.

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The more I think about it, the more I like it.

I am seeing it again for the 3rd time.

If I recall the numbers correctly, it has already earned $71 million worldwide, and cost $70millinon to produced. General realese starts today.

Reminds me...Ealy last Sunday morning I was walking along my block and could hear someone whistling. I couldn't identify the source of the whistling, or the song. The sound kept coming closer. Then I saw a woman towards as they whistled. I suddenly the tune came into focus..."All I Ask of You."

Funny, but, I found CHICAGO bad.

See how perspectives differ.

I didn't take PHANTOM seriously, and am not tied to the stage show, so maybe that's why I enjoyed the film.

Going for the 3rd time soon. lol

Well, this probably would have been my 6th time but until today the nearest theater that showed it was 2 hours away. But, now it is right down the road from where I work, so I can see it any ol' time I want.

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IMO, anyone who has the time to see this movie more than once has far too much free time on their hands. I'd rather watch dust settle.

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Updated On: 1/22/05 at 11:12 AM

This baby is truly a matter or personal preference. I knew it would be. Some would call it great, others...crap, others.. just ok.

In all fairness I wouldn't totally trash it. It had a lot of really redeeming aspects...despite the complaints about Butler, Patrick's hair, the midget,PONR etc,etc. It can't lose. Like LeMiz, POTO is extremely popular and always will be for better or worse. AND the film is not THAT lame for the world to turn its back on it.

Millions of people will see it, many will love it. It will sell like hotcakes on DVD. They have as much taste as those who loath it. Deal with it. Its really that simple. Everybody has favorites. Peace!

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Updated On: 1/22/05 at 05:16 PM

I thought this was pretty amusing:
Phantom in 15 minutes:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/m15m/6231.html

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Generally speaking, a film has to gross about three times its costs in order to break even, due to cost of prints, advertising and distribution (which aren't factored into the announced budget) and the fact that it only gets a percentage of the gross receipts. All told, Phantom will need to gross a bit more than $300 million domestically and internationally before it will break even. Even with DVD sales and broadcast fees, it's highly unlikely it'll ever get close to that figure.

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Updated On: 1/22/05 at 05:44 PM

VoiceofReason, lol!

Well, I don't care what any of you sour pusses say....I just got back from seeing it for a third time and I still love it. I don't think I am going to see it again for a while because I will eventually get tired of it A*K*A Moulin Rouge A*K*A Chicago A*K*A Spider-Man, etc.

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which would seem to suggest his "disfigurement" was not as bad as one would think with his white mask. But then, when he is revealed, all of a sudden the disfigurement takes up not just half his face, but half his skull as well...

My take on this is that when we are seeing the Phantom, we are seeing him through Christine's eyes. She's in a mesmerizing state - and she is seeing what she wants to see. (Like in the first lair scene where it looks beautiful and ornate - but we see how it really looks when Meg wanders through the hall). At the end, the Phantom is revealed to look how he truly does. That's how I interpreted it.

Someone mentioned the chandelier crash (and how it adds nothing to have it moved to where it is now)....I understood the reasons given for the change. They said something about how the chandelier was the buildup to the end of ACT 1 - and with a movie not having intermission - they decided to change the reason for the crash and have it be more meaningful. In the stage version, it's the Phantom's rage against Christine that propmts the crash. In the movie, it's a distraction so that he can take her - and it's symbolic of how he's willing to destroy the theater he loves so much in his madness (or something along those lines).