Adam Pascal sounds off on the haters!- Page 5

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 4:52pm

That's not entirely what I meant. I'm saying that just because I can't do [any job] doesn't mean I can't complain about it if it's a service I paid for.

Starting a thread about a missed line IS a bit much, but then again, on the Unnecessary Thread Food Chain of BWW, it's pretty low.

[sparrman]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 4:53pm

If you are on Broadway and you come around looking on Broadway message boards, you need to be prepared for -- and to accept -- whatever you find.

Or, you could of course not look at Broadway message boards.

[Jane2]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 4:56pm

Lizzy, and what I mean was if a physician messes up a surgery, you should indeed complain. In fact, you should sue!

I get what you meant. I'm just so incensed over the reasons some posters have for complaining. They paid for a ticket? Well, then give them a gold star.

Yeah, this is low on the ladder of unnecessary threads, but I"m so sick of the "I paid for a ticket" I demand what I demand!

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 4:57pm

"If you are on Broadway and you come around looking on Broadway message boards, you need to be prepared for -- and to accept -- whatever you find. Or, you could of course not look at Broadway message boards."

^ This is the attitude that makes me so depressed. I'm with Jane here.
Updated On: 6/5/13 at 04:57 PM

[GilmoreGirlO2]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:09pm

I think the points most people on here are trying to make is that the whole thread was not focused on just Adam missing his line – but, rather, how the show, as a whole, seems to be sloppy as of late. If someone was lashing out at an actor because he forgot a few lines, yes, that is uncalled for. Mentioning it (and others responding saying that this actor does have a history of having line flubs) as one of the “sloppy” things that happened the night the poster saw the show does not seem all that harmful.

And, most people aren’t denying Adam’s right to rant – of course he can post whatever he likes, just as we all on here do. Had he written a thought out piece about the harmful effects of online bullying within the theatre community without resorting to bullying himself, his post could have been very poignant.

I don’t agree that just because we, as audience members, paid for a ticket, have the right to be incensed if a performer forgets a line. Yes, that is crazy. Nor should it be okay to come online and blatantly bash or make fun of a performer, but commenting on one’s performance in a non-mean spirited way seems perfectly fine on a message board designed to discuss theatre (Winston mentions he is a fan of Adam’s and the posting of stories about Adam needing help with lines in “Rent” did not come off, to me, as an insult, but rather as an anecdote).

[Kad]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:11pm

I am sure Winston will be very surprised at the attention his thread has gotten.

[Jane2]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:16pm

If you pay for an appliance, and it doesn't work, you have reason to complain. They are factory produced from an assembly line. They come with warranties.

Theater is PEOPLE. They are fallible. They make mistakes, things go wrong. There can be no warranties. I guess if there's any kind of human error, you feel cheated? How about if the set breaks, if a mic goes out, if a speaker blows? and oh, what if an actor trips and falls down? I mean they rehearsed for months and studied their blocking! They shouldn't be falling! I paid for a ticket!

[broadway guy]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:19pm

You are welcome.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:21pm

I'm totally okay with people failing; sometimes it's notable... and not always outrage-provoking.

[BeadleDeedle]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:21pm

Jane, who are you talking to? I don't see people in this thread saying any of that stuff to the level of hyperbole you're expressing.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:23pm

Oh GOD, Jane...you just reminded me that I did, in fact, once totally wipe out on stage. It was MORTIFYING. I was dressed as an exceedingly gay cowboy and good LORD did I look foolish. And I've gone up on lines a bunch of times. It sucks...but it happens and you get through it.

I think Adam has every right to feel the way he does. I think he should probably just say it to a friend or write it in a journal rather than post it on Facebook. Yes...we're actors. And we're human. And we sometimes F*CK up. Even on Broadway. Luckily, there's usually a next time to do it better.

[eperkins]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:24pm

"The truth is, you could never in a million years do what it is we do 8 times a week."

Oh, I'll bet I could get up on stage and do what you did that night - forget my lyrics and sing nothing instead.

But seriously, there are many more trained, talented actors out there who would be perfectly willing and able to do that job, if you don't want it.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:24pm

You're human? My entire world comes crashing down.

I'm sorry. I'm medicated, I'm jet lagged, I just can't with any of this. On either side.

[ljay889]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:27pm

Em, when you're able to, I would really love your opinion on this issue. I know you're a big Adam fan.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:30pm

I promised myself I wasn't getting involved. But we'll see.

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:46pm

The RENT boys are very touchy. Lots of tender ego there. Exalted for your breakout show then just milking it like cow for as long as you can. Then becoming the 4000th Billy Flynn. Its hard on the ego. Trust.

Posting a rant on your Facebook wall for your fans to lick your wounds is likened to Sally Field going to the mall with Whoopi Goldberg in SOAPDISH. Sad.

[finebydesign]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 5:54pm

Kinda sad when z-list stars resort to actually responding to criticism, especially online.

Gosh I wish they kept count "4000th Billy Flynn." LOL that's a gem.

[Wilmingtom]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 6:07pm

Aside from the hilarity that this thread has reached 5 pages, isn't "haters" a rather strong word for someone who mentioned that an actor dropped some lyrics? Who hasn't?

Updated On: 6/5/13 at 06:07 PM

[finebydesign]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 6:10pm

I'm not sure when "haters" became a thing, but to me at least it just sounds like baby talk. Do you call your fans lovers?

[Jane2]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 6:14pm

"Jane, who are you talking to? I don't see people in this thread saying any of that stuff to the level of hyperbole you're expressing."

You don't? I don't know what to tell ya.

[Wilmingtom]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 6:23pm

finebydesign, I've always associated "haters" with bigots and racists and the like. I find it much too strong to use simply because someone has a different opinion about something. I am not a "hater" because I didn't care for so-and-so's performance.

[binau]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 6:26pm

What I hate about his comment, and about some of his defenders in this thread - is the thought that somehow because we are critical it means we are jealous of his success, or unhappy with ourselves.

I don't know why there is this assumption. Adam, I couldn't do what you do 8 times or even 1 time a week. I do love my life and my job, which has nothing to do with the performing arts. But broadway actors usually don't mess up their lines (I mean out of maybe 30 shows I've seen in NYC it has happened a couple of times sure, but it isn't something I would expect). So I don't think it's too surprising someone might want to comment on it. Particularly when it was handled the way you apparently did it (I.e. actors seem to recover better than you did).

Instead of whining maybe you should go and rehearse your lines.

[Kad]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 6:29pm

Wilmingtom- the "haters" of the title were a concoction by a member who likes to stir the pot under the guise of starting a dialogue.

[Wilmingtom]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 6:30pm

Thx, Kad. It all makes sense now.

[blaxx]

Posted: 6/5/13 at 6:32pm

This is Anthony Rapp defending the ReNt film all over again. Somebody call the waaahmbulance!