Altarholics — Page 2

Look, to be completely fair, there really are CRAZY fans in the Altar Boyz world. The kind that make it incredibly unenjoyable to attend the show. I have sat near people that made me feel like getting up and walking out of the theatre. I have seen a fan stand to give an actor an ovation from the second or third row after his solo... when no one else does and the moment didn't warrant that kind of reaction.

But I have never seen anything even remotely like that from any of the girls mentioned in the article. Specifically, Heather Ticotin has done quite a bit of work on behalf of the show without asking for any kind of compensation.

Every fandom has its share of crazies, but surprisingly, given its target audience of younger girls, Altar Boyz really doesn't have an abundance. Most of them are calm, well-meaning people who keep a respectable distance at stage doors and watch the show with appropriate applause, etc.

ETA: I refrained from mentioning some of the less than appropriate things that have happened at the show's "stage door", but suffice to say, the girls mentioned in the article have never been the cause of that kind of chaos.

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Updated On: 4/4/06 at 06:41 PM

Saw the show once. It was cute but cannot see why people would pay to see it more than once.I would rather see something else than the same thing over & over again

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well I'm not a friend (and certainly not a clinger-on), Heather is far from what I would consider a rabid renthead (which are the one's i was refering to in my earlier post).

Regardless, the personal attacks int his thread are uncalled for and cowardly. Honestly, Heather shouldn't (and probably doesn't) give a **** what you people think about her or her reputation.





and honestly, is it that hard to realize there is NO F in my screen name? (not just you, but it sort boggles my mind how many people call me zoneface.

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I didn't make a personal attack against her, because I don't even know her. I just mentioned that her reputation precedes her, so you shoudn't be so shocked that people have other (sometimes negative) opinions about her.

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While there is a small fringe that has an unhealthy relationship with the show to generalize in that way ruprecht is irresponsible and just plain pathetic.

You just directly insulted me, and I am far from guilty of any of the you just listed in that vile, hateful post.

You sound like one of those people who would generalize black people as gang banging thugs because of a small but visible minority, or all homosexuals as attention whoring bed hoppers because of, again, a small but visible minority.

yes, some people have taken things too far, and that's not ok, but neither is what you just did.

so frankly, go to hell. You really just lost all respect that i could possibly have ever had because of your disgusting generalizations.


ETA and whats with the quotes around Heather, it's her real name.

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Updated On: 4/4/06 at 08:13 PM

And really, you're going to equate this with race and gay bashing? Not even on the same planet!

Wow, over reacting much Zone? Absolutely wrong and out of line. Some of the Altarholics and Rentheads and Wicklyn's etc... ARE scary. If it doesn't apply to you, move on. I've seen them in action too and they hardly seem like they need anyone to defend them as vehemently as you just did at rup's expense.

Again Zone, you're too emotional about this. I don't know their names specifically and anyone with half a brain, would know I wasn't putting EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM/YOU into the same scary group. Why "doth thou protest so much"? If you're not one of them, then great, move on and quit insulting MY opinion and reality of what I'VE seen firsthand. Why is my take on it, any less "valid" than yours?

Updated On: 4/4/06 at 08:36 PM

Oh god, this is all starting again. Who remembers that crazy long thread about groupies? Yes well I do and it didn't turn out well. There were a lot of hurtful things said in that thread, and again, sometimes pointed to Heather.

Ruprecht- If you didn't want fighting or over reactions then why did you even bother to post again on the topic? There was no point. Lots of people heard what you had to say last time this whole thing came around and I'm almost certain that no one wants to hear it again.

As for the altarholics. There is a group of "crazies".. but there's a group of crazies in every fandom. I know for a fact, that a certain group of Altarholics have created FRIENDSHIPS with some of the boyz. Now, Ruprecht, don't give me that "line between fantasty and reality" crap because you may have witnessed some things, but you haven't seen it all.

This thread needs to end because I personally don't want it effecting people the way the old thread effected people.

And personal insults are just out of line, as it's been said here many times before.

Ruprecht, Im not claiming your opinion, based on your first hand experience is less valid than mine, I've had the same experience with fans before as well. What I claiming is that the way you presented your opinion, was rude, and in an intentional way. I agree, some of the fans go too far, but when you make a comment like, "*that's* what makes the Altar's and fans of that ilk, "scary". They REALLY think that without them, the show and all it's "stars" would be nothing. I'm making an educated guess that they'll be pretty constant presences at Lestat and Wedding Singer now as of course, you know they "created" Jim Stanyk(slut) and David josefberg(Altar Boys)." I take it personally because I consider myself an Alterholic, but I've never for once thought i created Joberg, and I never saw Slut, but you suggested, that because i was merely an Alterholic that i was some how depraved, and apparently consumed with a God Complex, and I can assure you, that's incorrect. While you may claim you didn't mean to make it general and that anyone "with half a brain" could figure out, I don't believe that first part, and well, the second, was again, another insult.



And Heather, thank you for bringing some class to this mud slinging contest.

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Oh sorry, right, the only topics that are allowed to rehash ad nauseum on this board are topics such as Cheno, Wicked, Cheno, Sutton foster, Cheno, how many people should be out of the chorus and have shows written for them, oh and of course, CHENO. I will post any darn time I please and since you don't check with me about what (and more specifically), IN WHAT TONE, you're allowed to write in, than don't dare attempt to dictate to me.

Of course he made your day Carryme, and now you can he can be best friends!

Brava, Heather!

Those of you on this thread who are calling the Altarholics scary and intrusive to the show are out of line. I can't speak about Rentheads, but I am in more of a position to speak about the Altarholics than probably anyone else on this board. The altarholics are a help rather than a hindrance to the show. Whomever has a problem with their dedication and enthusiasm for Altar Boyz - well, it really is their problem.

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