An Open Letter To All Posters on This Board - Page 8

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 5:42pm

Three minutes!  Wrong again, Roxy!

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 5:47pm

Somethings in life are givens such as death, taxes, and see the poster above whatever was said. Nice to be able to depend on you NAMO. Thanks for proving my point above and again after I post this.

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[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 5:48pm

Your [sic] welcome glad to help 

[FishermanBob]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 5:49pm

"I guaranty in less than 2 minutes, one of them will post garbage about me and I could care less."

Here you go...

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 5:53pm

Ah a call to the bullpen.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 5:55pm

Is this about to take an anti-Mets turn because Jane will kick your ass?

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[Mister Matt]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 5:59pm

I wonder what After Eight, the one true voice of the people and the sole supporter of theatre, would have to say on the subject?  Or are his nasty comments exempt because he is the only person left in the world who truly loves theatre and not part of the Great Conspiracy?

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 6:00pm

Ask him. Rex? Are you here...?

[brdway411]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 6:28pm

FishermanBob's photo reminds me of most of this years Broadway season. GARBAGE!!!

 

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 7:39pm

So if Party of Sh*theads is okay, I should be able to say The C*ntastic one, right?

[Pauly3]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 9:11pm

"
"Retard and retarded are kiiiinda in the same family"
In a way they are, brdwydreamer but in another way, they're very different. If you call someone a "retard" it is generally meant as an insult, to hurt and not PC.
Someone who is retarded is a serious matter. Nothing funny about it. It is a condition that physicians use and are not breaking any PC rules by discussing a medical condition. I will never apologize if I use the word retarded as "characterized by a slowness or limitation in intellectual understanding and awareness, emotional development, academic progress, etc."
Not the same."

 

Being afflicted with retardation or any significant slowness/limitation in intellectual understanding is indeed serous.  But people casually referring to someone as "retarded" isn't really any different than if you had referred to that same person as a "retard".  It makes no difference whether the targeted person is actually medically retarded or not.  Hiding behind the definition of the word retarded doesn't exculpate you from what is or would typically be perceived as mean-spirited when using the word so casually.  It's great to be technically right, but it would be much greater if you could understand the perception of your choice of words and choose to use different vocabulary in an attempt to not come off as so mean-spirited.  Even if it means not being so damn clever!

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 9:17pm

taking down my meltdown. 

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[Jane2]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 9:27pm

Where else can you delete a meltdown?

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[Pauly3]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 9:30pm

Jane, I did NOT infer you thought it was OK to use the word retarded as an insult.  Your point was/is well taken, but the medical aspect isn't pertinent to the discussion in this thread.  You appeared to be defending Jordan's use of the word retarded, and in my opinion, Jordan was not speaking about a medical problem in a serious attempt to describe retardation.  Calm down.

[Jane2]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 9:39pm

I am calm right now.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 9:56pm

Now that this thread has gone from smart to dumb and back again about 16 times in a row, maybe we should sit back and see what lessons we can learn from it.

1. Only an ignorant person would call someone ignorant for merely liking or disliking something. Therefore, no one who is called names for their taste should consider the source and not give it more significance than it deserves.

2. No one should have their comments suppressed in any way, regardless of whether the suggestion is coming from a positive place (e.g., the OP) or a negative place (e.g. After Eight, except in the rare case of a show that he asserts is not a sign of the apocalypse). 

3. Wishing for a show to close out of meanness is bad. Saying a show should close based on objective factors is not mean.

4. The theatre is an extremely unstable place to work. To suggest we should not discuss that fact publicly because it might make someone feel bad is just downright bizarre. It should be noted, also, that today there are many other businesses, not known for instability, that are. Many folks who have spent their lives in the print media who have the misfortune of working for companies that don't have a grip on adapting are finding themselves out of work, through no fault of their own. Others have given their lives to work on products that have become obsolete are also put out of work. Some people lose their jobs, notwithstanding incredibly able individual  performance, because some people well above their paygrade lacked the imagination or drive to keep the business afloat. These are all things that it is not only OK to talk about, but important to talk about. And the theatrical production may fail for any or all of these reasons, and respecting those of us who busted out butts for the show is not eve remotely a good reason to shove it under the carpet. 

5. People who truly love theatre do not only love the highs, but also the lows. And if you don't love bad theatre, then in truth you don't actually love the theatre, because the theatre thrives on both the good and the bad. There is probably not a place on earth that has a higher percentage of real lovers of theatre passing through its threshold than Joe Allen's. And how is the theatre celebrated there? Not by a shrine of its glorious successes, but by one dedicated to its equally glorious failure. 

So to the OP (who seems to be a well meaning troll at this point) and all those who have lined up behind him or her, head to Joe Allen's after Sunday's close, buy yourself a martini (or a ginger ale if drinking is not a part of your life), stare at those posters and imagine that some day you might be able to walk in their proudly and point to the poster of your show and tell your friends, "I worked on that show."

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 10:13pm

I get your point - but even in medical terms the word is outdated, and is being phased out. "Idiot" was also medical terminology at one point!

The diagnostic term 'mental retardation' is finally being eliminated in the upcoming international classifications of diseases and disorders. The term 'mental retardation' was introduced by the American Association on Mental Retardation in 1961 and soon afterwards was adopted by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) in its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders (DSM-5).^[1,2] Mental retardation replaced older terms such as feeblemindedness, idiocy, and mental subnormality that had become pejorative. Now, over 5 decades later, the term 'mental retardation' is being eliminated for similar reasons.

Link

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[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 10:32pm

Who are the Party of 5?  I know me and Jordan, but who else?  Liza, I guess.  But the other two are wild cards to me!  

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 10:35pm

Are you accepting new members? Is there a form to fill in?

[Musical Master]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 10:42pm

To HogansHero:

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 11:08pm

Jay, of course you can!  For all we know, you're already one!

[FishermanBob]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 11:19pm

 

 

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 11:25pm

Happy centennial, Orson Welles!

[Musical Master]

Posted: 5/6/15 at 11:36pm

"Happy centennial, Orson Welles!"

Oh yeah, Orson would've been 100 today. Happy Centennial to the legendary Orson Welles. 

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 5/7/15 at 4:32am

LOL. Did Orson Welles call somebody a retard for liking MAMMA MIA?

(Namo, surely you can see why some of us occasionally miss linguistic subtleties.)