Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

#1

Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 2:54pm

What do you think the biggest mistake(s) are. I say:

Wicked losing Best Musical
Winnie Holzman losing for Wicked's book
West Side Story losing Best Musical

I know there are more, but those are ones that come immediatley to my mind.

Updated On: 7/6/04 at 02:54 PM

#2

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 2:55pm

Those are the only ones.

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#3

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 2:55pm

oh lord.

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#4

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 2:56pm

Probably West Side loosing best musical. Clearly better than Music Man. Remember, Whinnie Holtzman adapted the book. The real winner is the guy who wrote the book. If WICKED had been written directly for the theatre I would have been pissed it lost book.

#5

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:01pm

The Producers.
Winnie Holzman being nominated for Wicked's book.

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#6

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:04pm

Bernadette Peters not winning for Gypsy

#7

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:07pm

FOLLIES losing best musical to TWO GENTLEMAN OF VERONA.
SUNDAY IN THE PARK losing practically everything to LA CAGE.

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#8

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:08pm

The producers winning all that it did. I mean, it is funny but not the greatest musial ever, which that is what they are saying if you go by Tony Awards.

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#9

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:09pm

Agree on the Producers. The music is so forgettable

#10

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:11pm

I mean, "Springtime for Hitler" is priceless, but you can get that by watching the movie (great movie by the way). i think they should do a BLAZING SADDLES musical. OMG that would be the funniest thing.

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#11

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:15pm

I think that neither Wicked nor Winnie Holzman deserved a Tony.
As for mistakes, perhaps the snubbing of Ann Harada?

#12

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:17pm

Pacific Overtures losing Best Musical.

#13

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:17pm

Is this going to become yet another "I'm mad the very best musical in the whole wide world lost" thread? If so I have only 3 words for you..... GET OVER IT!
nuf' said
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#14

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:17pm

I agree with ShbrtAlley44.

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#15

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:18pm

The problem with the year of The Producers was that there wasn't much in the way of competition, coupled with the enormous PR machine that The Producers put to its command.

But worse than that? The year Contact was nominated as Best Musical.

BTW, Effie: good calls.

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#16

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:18pm

Thanks, Bway11. I just re-read my post and have decided that "The Snubbing of Ann Harada" should be a Lifetime movie.

#17

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:19pm

Hunter Foster not being nominated for Urinetown.

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#18

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:19pm

taboo not winning for best costumes. uhhh thats all i can think of right now in my shallow little brian! (just kidding! :) )

#19

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:21pm

It took all of 13 minutes for Two Gentlemen of Verona/Follies to get mentioned!

I like Nine well enough, but I would have given the 1982 Tony Award for Best Musical to Dreamgirls.

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#20

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:22pm

Will Rogers Follies winning over Miss Saigon! (or even The Secret Garden for that matter......) Ugh.

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#21

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:23pm

The entire 2001 season, the wins the omissions, the nominess, etc... More recently, Winokur winning over Peters and Menzel winning over Pinkins.

#22

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:25pm

Fosse is legend and we all love him for what he did, so honor the man, but FOSSE didn't deserve a best musical tony that's for damn sure. Parade should have won. Period.

Oh, and I don't care if she has one, Tonya was robbed.
Love Idina, but Tonya deserved it.
And before all of you little Wicked girls tackle me in the street, spend that $25 on tickets to Caroline or Change instead of another Wicked poster.

#23

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:26pm

We had this discussion not too long ago.

I don't believe Wicked deserved any more awards than those it won.

Major oversights in the past included Urinetown, Parade, Falsettos and Into the Woods not winning Best Musical as well as Contact and Movin' Out being categorized as musicals when they are clearly both ballets. I'd give Movin' Out a little leeway, but Contact had no live music, for goodness' sake!

PS - I don't think Follies deserved Best Musical and I'm a little iffy on Sunday in the Park With George. I'm not a fan of La Cage, but the second act of Sunday is incredibly tedious and difficult to sit through. If I don't fall asleep during "Children and Art", then I nod off during "Move On".

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#24

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:26pm

Also Jerome Robbins Broadway as Best Musical - almost as crazy as Contact.

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#25

re: Biggest Mistake(s) in Tony History

Posted: 7/6/04 at 3:32pm

Brighton Beach Memoirs not being nominated as Best Play.

Crazy For You winning Best Musical over Falsettos and Jelly's Last Jam.

Cats winning Best Book.