CoffeeBreak said: ". But, being week 3 of ifs run, MINCEMEAT has the most impressive numbers of the new musicals (at this part of their runs) this year. It’s the hit so far."
It's making substantially less money than both Redwood and Death Becomes Her in their third weeks.
Kad said: "CoffeeBreak said: ". But, being week 3 of ifs run, MINCEMEAT has the most impressive numbers of the new musicals (at this part of their runs) this year. It’s the hit so far."
It's making substantially less money than both Redwood and Death Becomes Her in their third weeks."
Death Becomes Her is based on a popular movie has a host of decently attractive names and is in a 1500 seat there, Redwood has Idina Menzel and is in a 1200 seat theatre. This show is an original musical with no stars in an 800 seat theatre. No **** that the other shows made more than it just based on theatre size alone. But, Mincemeat has better capacity, average ticket price, and top ticket price than those shows that have more going for them on paper along with Maybe Happy Ending, Swept Away, and Wonderful World. Absolutely has a strong argument to claiming to be off to the best start of a new musical this season.
Nobody is saying Mincemeat is not doing very well, but you’ve also just set the bar for “best start” in such a way that only Mincemeat could hit it.
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Kad said: "CoffeeBreak said: ". But, being week 3 of ifs run, MINCEMEAT has the most impressive numbers of the new musicals (at this part of their runs) this year. It’s the hit so far."
It's making substantially less money than both Redwood and Death Becomes Her in their third weeks."
Neither of which I suspect will return its investment on Broadway. For a big, splashy musical very early in its run, DBH's average ticket price has to be a major disappointment to its investors. It has been open long enough for me to assume that that is not going to change.
Re Redwood, even Idina can only sell so many full-oriced tickets; it will last longer than it would without Idina, but that's about it.
I am surprised that OM's average ticket price is so low -- probably something I don't know about -- since I never saw a discount code for it and it doesn't appear to be at TKTS. The fact that it is selling out previews (in an admittedly small theatre) shows there is interest. If the reviews are as expected, we will see sizable gross increases. Not sure that will happen for the other two.
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Jarethan said: "
I am surprised that OM's average ticket price is so low -- probably something I don't know about -- since I never saw a discount code for it and it doesn't appear to be at TKTS.
They did a sale for $39 tickets, including a lot of prime orchestra seats, during previews. The code was supposedly for people who won the "Golden Lottery" but was immediately spread pretty widely online and the seats sold out fast. That likely accounts for the lower average price.
Operation Mincemeat had a Golden Ticket draw promo where seats in previews cost $39. That's probably why OM has a lower than expected average ticket price.
Given it's still in previews, normally creative team take up some of the seats and have some comps as well.
As for Othello, what amazes me is how star casting will drive fans to watch anything --- even Shakespeare --- just to see their favorite actors live in person. I don't recall Iceman Cometh being such a draw back in 2018 when Denzel starred in it. I recall Sunday in the Park with George revival starring Jake G selling well but they were not close to these astronomical prices.
Aside from Othello, I think the second most impressive performance was Maybe Happy Ending. With so many shows dipping to some of their worst numbers ever or in quite awhile, it continues to hold remarkably steady. It could not hit $800K until Christmas time and now has been above that number even since through the winter doldrums.
On the other side of things, OUCH to Chicago, Hell's Kitchen, Moulin Rouge and Six
ACL2006 said: "CHICAGO needs to get a name in there soon."
The Weisslers will be on the phone to Cynthia & Ariana’s agents post-Oscars no doubt.
But. Imagine.
Can they get Pamala Anderson back, fresh off "The Last Showgirl". Her video of 'Roxie' is on YouTube and it's like she was born to play the role.
I hope Pamela Anderson comes back too. Seems like a long time ago now but when she performed at CHICAGO in spring 2022, all of the pandemic policies were still in place (vaccine/mask).
I wish Chicago's original post-covid opening plan of Jane Krakowski and Arian DeBose had actually come to fruition. DeBose is certainly not going to be a replacement at this moment in her career. But Krakowski has always wanted to do this show...maybe they can throw a ton of money at her to convince her? Would kill to see her take.
I'm surprised they didn't dip into the Drag Race pool for the annual Feb/March slow season to drum up some sales. There are so many famous queens who can sing and have great comedy chops for Mama Morton (Monet X Change, Latrice Royale, Ginger Minj, Bendelacreme, Kennedy Davenport...they could all do it and put their own fun spin on it). Maybe they don't want that to be a constant casting choice to make it seem more "special" when it does happen.
MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "There are so many famous queens who can sing and have great comedy chops for Mama Morton...Latrice Royale"
I'd buy a ticket to see Latrice!
How much longer can GREAT GATSBY and MOULIN ROUGE hold on at these numbers? Both must be losing money each week now, and there are other, newer shows pulling attention.
SIX also had a bad week but could be a momentary blip.
Team DEATH BECOMES HER must be sweating after such a strong start. Breakeven is around a million a week, right? They can't afford to drop much more before they start bleeding money and eroding the profit made the past 5 months –– and this is after a huge marketing blitz that included advertising before WICKED for months (in NYC at least).
The tourists like them. Spring breaks start this month. They'll be fine through summer now.
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "How much longer can GREAT GATSBY and MOULIN ROUGE hold on at these numbers? Both must be losing money each week now, and there are other, newer shows pulling attention."
I think MOULIN ROUGE is on its last legs (and the rumor is that its end is near) but I think GATSBY still has life in it -- something I don't think anyone expected at all, especially since the departures of Jeremy and Eva. This past week was the first time it's been under $1 million since early November but this and next week's performances appear near-to-sold-out. I think this past week was a fluke for them and that they'll be around a little while longer. But time will tell as it always does.
ACL2006 said: "willep said: "That Othello number is just insane."
$362 average ticket price is ridiculous."
When Jake Gyllenhaal did Sunday in the Park with George in 2017, the average ticket price was $147.10. When Denzel Washington did The Iceman Cometh in 2018 the average ticket price was $141.78.
Even accounting for inflation and them both being in a show together, $362 is nuts.
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I often forget this this is show business......if the demand exists for $900 tickets, then we will have shows charging $900.
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Could BOM be in danger or is it relatively cheap to run, so it's fine?
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