Broadway League To Resume Releasing Weekly Grosses
#2
Posted: 3/17/22 at 10:42am
YAS! It's about time!
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#3
Posted: 3/17/22 at 11:19am
Excellent.
Another interesting point: "On Tuesday, March 22, the League will post all weeks for the 2021-2022 season through March 20 on the League's public website, where grosses have always been reported." So we will be able to see hard numbers of how shows fared through the fall and winter (which is, I suspect, not great for most titles). We'll be able to see the results of the heavy papering at Slave Play and Flying Over Sunset and Pass Over and other shows that just couldn't generate interest from full-priced buyers.
Updated On: 3/17/22 at 11:19 AM
#4
Posted: 3/17/22 at 11:41am
Those numbers during the Omicron breakout ain't gonna be pretty.
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#5
Posted: 3/17/22 at 12:34pm
It's about time. Otherwise we have no choice to assume the numbers aren't just bad, they're catastrophically bad, and that's why they were hiding the numbers.
#6
"Hey little girls, look at all the men in shiny shirts and no wives!" - Jackie Hoffman, Xanadu, 19 Feb 2008
Posted: 3/17/22 at 12:42pm
The fact that they're going to be posting retroactively is going to be some fodder for the message board!
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#7
Posted: 3/17/22 at 12:42pm
I’ll be interested to see Paradise squares numbers
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#8
Posted: 3/17/22 at 12:56pm
Finally!
“I am furious, but I am sailing.”
#9
Posted: 3/17/22 at 1:00pm
I absolutely loved lurking and viewing these in the past!! I'm curious how turner & DEH faired- though they're "popular" I doubt they were making booms through omnicron winter
#10
Posted: 3/17/22 at 1:19pm
Thank goodness!
It's going to be so surreal to go back and look the numbers from this past fall. As much as I hated the secrecy, I became sort of accustomed to the mystery of it, and the "thrill of the chase" when little fragmented clues were leaked.
#11
Posted: 3/17/22 at 2:32pm
This undoes the damage that Charlotte's naive miscalculation caused, and cuts off the impending selective release of another round of highly damaging narrative. Too many producers finally got fed up.
#12
Posted: 3/17/22 at 2:41pm
HogansHero said: "This undoes the damage that Charlotte's naive miscalculation caused, and cuts off the impending selective release of another round of highly damaging narrative. Too many producers finally got fed up."
What do you think we will be surprised with the most? Any guess?
#13
Posted: 3/17/22 at 3:01pm
Papi2013 said: "HogansHero said: "This undoes the damage that Charlotte's naive miscalculation caused, and cuts off the impending selective release of another round of highly damaging narrative. Too many producers finally got fed up."
What do you think we will be surprised with the most? Any guess?"
From what I hear, Jagged Little Pill was playing to houses that were about 80% full before their retroactive closing.
I think many of us will be surprised by just how bad some of these grosses have been this season thus far (Diana, Flying Over Sunset, etc.)
“I am furious, but I am sailing.”
#14
Posted: 3/17/22 at 4:51pm
DEH and CFA are my two big question marks because their numbers have significantly dropped from where they were pre-pandemic and may be in their final months if things don't pick up.
The "middleground" shows are always what's most interesting to me –– the shows that aren't about to close, but aren't doing STELLAR business. That, and the disparity between hits (Hamilton, Music Man) and flops.
I continue to feel bad for Lynn Nottage and Dominique Morisseau. Those were two great plays that nobody saw between Omicron and the holidays.
#15
Posted: 3/17/22 at 10:01pm
I'm most curious about Ain't too Proud, Doubtfire, and Waitress
#16
Posted: 3/17/22 at 10:14pm
The evergreens: Chicago and Phantom especially.
Which shows reopened for the SVOG.
#17
Posted: 3/21/22 at 1:59pm
Releasing tomorrow!
#18
Posted: 3/21/22 at 2:05pm
Jordan Catalano said: "Releasing tomorrow!"
I’m sure we all can’t wait to see just how abysmal grosses for most shows have been so far this season, and will be throughout the spring.
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#19
Posted: 3/21/22 at 2:21pm
Years from now, when you talk about this — and you will — be kind.
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#20
Posted: 3/21/22 at 4:57pm
Hogan, what are you predicting about Chicago and Phantom? Low grosses?
#21
Posted: 3/21/22 at 5:02pm
EDSOSLO858 said: "Jordan Catalano said: "Releasing tomorrow!"
I’m sure we all can’t wait to see just how abysmal grosses for most shows have been so far this season, and will be throughout the spring."
Just because we're talking about grosses -- you know you don't literally need to be "gross"?
#22
Posted: 3/21/22 at 5:14pm
Phantom4ever said: "Hogan, what are you predicting about Chicago and Phantom? Low grosses?"
I think the question I was answering was what did I think we would be most surprised by so while I think the grosses will be quite low, I'll be surprised either way. 
#23
Posted: 3/21/22 at 5:18pm
So if the grosses show that a long runner like Aladdin, Chicago, Phantom, etc. is clearly not making its weekly nut, how long do you think producers will keep supporting these shows in the hopes that they will go back to their consistent moneymaker status? 6 months? a year?
I'm curious if there were any weeks where the old shows like Chicago or Phantom outgrossed a "newer" show like BOM or Aladdin.
#24
Posted: 3/21/22 at 5:53pm
I think that will depend on what future prospects a theater has. They are t going to boot a show to leave a theater empty.
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#25
Posted: 3/21/22 at 6:09pm
Phantom4ever said: "So if the grosses show that a long runner like Aladdin, Chicago, Phantom, etc. is clearly not making its weekly nut, how long do you think producers will keep supporting these shows in the hopes that they will go back to their consistent moneymaker status? 6 months? a year?
I'm curious if there were any weeks where the old shows like Chicago or Phantom outgrossed a "newer" show like BOM or Aladdin."
With the two shows I mentioned, it's hard to say because the producers have been made so rich by the shows (among others) that it's really just their own subjective choice. (I'd put Aladdin in a diff category, both because the banked profit is not as humongous and also because they are their own landlord. As Dramamama points out, it's kinda up to the landlord but here again these producers are going to get a wide berth in terms of telling them it's time. .
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