CAROUSEL (2018) Previews- Page 29

[broadwayboy223]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 3:21pm

WTF? Where is the Rodgers and Hammerstein Estate in all this? They need to stop cutting important stuff!! Every post makes me sadder and sadder

[NJ_BroadwayGirl]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 3:35pm

newintown said: "It's very very difficult to imagine Act I ending with "Soliloquy," as there is a five-page finale after that in thescore, incorporating the scene between Billy, Jigger, and Julie, when Julie discovers that Billy is coming to clam bake, as opposed to what she had been led to believe, and Jigger instructs him to get a knife, which he hides from Julie. Not that it's the be-all and end-all of the show, but it is a rather significant scene."

I saw the show on Sunday and all of that scene work was included. 

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 3:43pm

Instead of focusing on things that should be fixed, it looks like Jack O'Brien is just making things worse!

[broadwayboy223]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 3:45pm

It seems like they are trying to do "Carousel JR!" with all these cuts.

[NJ_BroadwayGirl]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 3:49pm

That scene with Billy, Jigger and Julie seems pretty important to the plot to me. I can't believe they are still going back and forth on that kind of stuff at this point. Also provides even less stage time for Mueller. So it was IN on Saturday and Sunday, out on Tuesday. Curious to see what happens tonight and later this week.

[JAS]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 3:50pm

NJ_BroadwayGirl said: "I saw the show on Sunday and all of that scene work was included."

As of last night, act one ended with the Soliloquy. Billy noticed a knife Jigger had thrown into the floor in the scene with Mrs Mullin. He walked over, picked it up, and the lights went out.

[Addipia94]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 5:17pm

NJ_BroadwayGirl said: "I can't believe they are still going back and forth on that kind of stuff at this point."

Agreed. If anything, some of the dance sequences could be shortened...but making essential cuts to dialogue that hinder plot development just doesn't make sense. Why cut material that works and limit one of brightest talents in the cast (Mueller) from actually performing? Waste.

[Elegance101]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 5:23pm

Addipia94 said: "Elegance101, Agreed. But given how small the role of Julie is in the current revival, do you even consider it a lead role? It definitely feels more supporting."

It's certainly not a big leading lady role that Mueller has done in the past few years, but when you think about technical classification (like in award shows), Julie is a leading role. While Carrie tends to steal the show, it's about Billy and Julie's relationship at the end of the day.

While I absolutely love her and don't mean this as a negative thing, I highly doubt we'll be seeing Jessie Mueller in a supporting role on Broadway anytime soon. Again, it's not me saying her ego is huge or she's too big for her britches, but after Beautiful and Waitress (two shows she practically carried on her own), I think her career decision moving forward will be to keep being a leading lady. After all, this is a business.

[Addipia94]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 5:30pm

NJ_BroadwayGirl said: "While I absolutely love her and don't mean this as a negative thing, I highly doubt we'll be seeing Jessie Mueller in a supporting role on Broadway anytime soon. Again, it's not me saying her ego is huge or she's too big for her britches, but after Beautiful and Waitress (two shows she practically carried on her own), I think her career decision moving forward will be to keep being a leading lady. After all, this is a business."

No yeah, totally. I don't see her taking supporting roles either. It's just interesting how vastly different her stage time is when you consider as you said, Beautiful and Waitress she carried those shows completely. Julie is a beautiful role, it just doesn't seem meaty enough for her. Then again, what do I know?

Updated On: 3/28/18 at 05:30 PM

[Elegance101]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 5:53pm

I hear ya, Addipia94! Especially in this production, the role does seem diminished in some way. Like a foil for Billy's story.

[zjb8]

Posted: 3/28/18 at 10:01pm

Has anyone heard any news about a cast recording?

[TheSassySam]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 12:43am

I saw this show this afternoon and Jessie literally has nothing to work with. 

 

I do appreciate Joshua Henry, but I felt he missed the kinda biting sass that Steven Pasquale had in the Chicago Lyric production.

Mendez and Fleming were the highlights for me. 

 

Also, the set seems a bit Pier 1 Imports to me. 

[Elegance101]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 12:54am

1. Not all critiques are from the first preview alone. If people are yelling disaster, it’s been coming in consistently for the past few weeks the show’s been running, so that argument on your part makes no sense.
2. You need to take a walk, buddy. I’m not sure why you’re so angry, but the name-calling and flat-out mean posts are immature and uncalled for. Also this is literally a discussion about whether we liked a piece of theatre or not, it ain’t that deep.

Updated On: 3/29/18 at 12:54 AM

[Elegance101]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 1:14am

Matt Rogers, if I tracking this correctly, you said everyone here is crazy for having an opinion that’s not yours, one person asked you to elaborate on what you loved about it (which you have yet to do) and then you start to pick a fight, like a defensive child?

[Matt Rogers]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 1:21am

Elegance101 said: "Matt Rogers, if I tracking this correctly, you said everyone here is crazy for having an opinion that’s not yours, one person asked you to elaborate on what you loved about it (which you have yet to do) and then you start to pick a fight, like a defensive child?"

Well, "understudy", no, I did not pick a fight, but I'm responding to people who are attacking me. I do know the pattern on here, though, having been here for much, much longer than you. Bitches go to first preview, bitch about first preview, and then the show gets great reviews. Happens over and over again. 

[Elegance101]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 1:26am

I like how you’re treating the status of my BroadwayWorld account as if it’s some indicator of the worth of my entire being.

Also, literally no one was attacking you until you started name-calling. You’re so petty.

Woe is me, living in a world where I’m a second-class citizen because I’m an “understudy” on the BroadwayWorld Message Boards. Pray for me.

[broadwayboy223]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 1:53am

I'm sorry but it's actually childish and rude to name call someone else because they have a different opinion than you.  (If I knew how to post an image this is where I'd have the Glinda "Be gone you have no power here" 

[Sho-Tunes-R-Us]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 2:24am

Re all the sudden drama:

"Hide and watch, Vera.  Hide and watch." - GREATER TUNA

[Mr. Nowack]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 2:29am

What a bunch of sour Queens. I thought it was a lovely production, and made me appreciate CAROUSEL perhaps more than before. Never been one of my favorites and have no fond memories of other productions so perhaps that allowed me to not be a sour grape at it. I will say Mueller underwhelmed me, but the rest of the cast were excellent. The orchestra was on fire and I actually loved the set design, despite the lumps of rubber that made up the sand in the Clambake scene. The bench scene set was especially evocative in a simple way. Also wished Billy did more of an ascent at the end. But other than that.

[kp]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 4:17am

Childish, immature, hectoring, bullying, homophobic,intemperate,unreasonable,angry,deranged. Not my review of Carousel - I haven't seen it. But my thoughts on some of the language being used in this thread and on this site and I suppose on some of the people using it. My mother did really used to say, if you haven't got anything nice to say...Well, I am not sure that works but I do think that there is something in not saying something hiding behind cyber anonymity, that you wouldn't say to someone's face.  I suspect I am preaching to the unconvertible but worth a go.

[ColorTheHours048]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 9:03am

This sudden burst of anger over the folks who didn’t care for the production is both odd and hilarious. As if there wasn’t a spate of first previews over the last few weeks that people attended and gave varying reviews of. I was one of them. If you go back to those first preview remarks of Carousel, you’ll see that they’re not only good and bad, but mostly very explanatory and fair. Most of us gave credit where credit was due (the vocals, the orchestra, the beautiful score presentation, the choreography). This is BroadwayWorld, after all; a message board for people to discuss their varying opinions on theatre. I was unaware we’re supposed to either unequivocally (and nondescriptly) love something or keep our mouths shut until everyone has gotten a chance to see it.

I didn’t care for Carousel for lots of reasons, but I loved Three Tall Women and My Fair Lady, both of which were very early into previews when I saw them. Am I a bitch for having expressed joy over these productions when I could not bestow the same upon Carousel? That seems to be your logic, Matt Rogers. And while I don’t feel feeding the troll is going to do anyone any good, you should know that your responses in this thread are unnecessary and unproductive, hilarious as they may be.

For what it’s worth, I had no preconception of what Carousel should or shouldn’t be and didn’t care at all that the script had been cut up. It still fell flat.

Updated On: 3/29/18 at 09:03 AM

[NJ_BroadwayGirl]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 10:28am

Wow. Okay so arguments aside - was the scene with Billy, Julie, and Jigger at the end of Act 1 IN last night?

[lesmizsaigon]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 10:35am

Saw it last night and the first act ended with Soliloquy. Lindsay Mendez deserves a Tony nomination, if not the award itself. Choreography was gorgeous. Second act felt rushed, especially when it came to Billy's redemption, I thought there would be more to it.

Also people were chatting during all of entr'acte and I was like ??? Is this common during previews?

 

[Ado Annie D'Ysquith]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 10:50am

[Lot666]

Posted: 3/29/18 at 10:54am

lesmizsaigon said: "people were chatting during all of entr'acte and I was like ??? Is this common during previews?"

Unfortunately, this has become common across the board.