Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
#1Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 7:45pmOn gay high holy day. Seriously! There's a time and a place to display their alternative lifestyle.
#2Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 7:50pmHahahahahaha
#2Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 7:52pmNow THAT'S funny!
--Aristotle
#3Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 7:52pm
Um...I won't comment specifically on who I THINK you are referring to. But, one of the people I am sitting with here has personal knowledge he is NOT straight...But, although I think we're talking about the same person, perhaps not...
And yes, he's married. It's the very trendy thing to do these days - gay chic marriage for kids...and friendship...hot gay sex on the side...constantly...
#4Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:20pm
There are gay men married to women? OMG, we need to alert the media!
#5Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:21pm
Well, but they're openly gay, fine with it...and also get married to have a friend who is a woman, live with them and have kids...they're not in the closet...THAT was my point.
#6Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:29pm
A Director
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/18/07
#7Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/13/10 at 8:39pmWhy were the Tony Awards allowed on happen on this day?
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#8Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:09am
> Well, but they're openly gay, fine with it...they're not in the closet...
and yet you appear to have gone out of your way to avoid identifying them. somthing's askew there ...
#9Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:14amI want Raul to win one of these days so that he can thank his wife AND his boyfriend.
sparrman
Broadway Star Joined: 2/21/07
#10Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:18am
I have no idea who you guys are hinting about, but I thought it was notable that Douglas Hodge didn't use the word "wife" in his thanks, which would have sent a clear "I'm actually straight!!!" message to middle America. On the one hand, I find that admirable, but on the other, I sort of wish he had, to send the message "Your assumptions about people may not necessarily be true".
Don't forget that George Hearn's first words upon clutching his Tony for Albin were "What some guys won't do...".
Updated On: 6/14/10 at 10:18 AM
#11Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:27amHe didn't say "wife" because they're not legally married.
#12Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:32am
That's a good reason.
sparrman
Broadway Star Joined: 2/21/07
#13Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:32amAh, thanks, I didn't know that. Well, "my partner Tessa and our two beautiful children..." would have done the trick.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#14Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:39amWhat trick? Maybe he didn't care about reassuring America that playing a gay role doesn't have to make one gay.
sparrman
Broadway Star Joined: 2/21/07
#15Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:47am
Yes yes, as I've already said, I see the benefit in that, and I agree that's probably the most progressive way to approach it. But I also see some benefit in turning people's "expectations" on their heads.
My main point (and my final one) is that we've come a long way from casting George Hearn, who has the most masculine singing voice imaginable and who went out of his way to make the point that he was straight in his acceptance speech, to the casting of Hodge, who made (to me at least) a fairly convincing woman as Zaza, and who made no effort at all to emphasize his heterosexuality.
Yankeefan007
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/20/04
#16Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:53amHodge also referred to her as his "partner" during the NY1 red carpet broadcast.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#17Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 10:56am
Yes yes, as I've already said, I see the benefit in that, and I agree that's probably the most progressive way to approach it. But I also see some benefit in turning people's "expectations" on their heads.
Whose expectations would he have turned on their head? Probably not people watching the Tonys.
#18Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 11:30am
Who cares if he's gay or straight? How does that change anything? He's still the same person. If people think he's gay because he's playing a gay character, does that mean that Idina Menzel is really green and can fly?
If someone is gay or straight, that tells you absolutely nothing about that person - are they a kind person, do they have morals, are they responsible, etc....
#19Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 12:26pmAmen, Neal.
#20Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 12:31pm
This thread was better when it was funny.
If someone is gay or straight, that tells you absolutely nothing about that person
Not "absolutely nothing." It tells you if they're gay or straight. I mean, I have brown hair, which tells you nothing about MY personality, ethics, etc... but it does tell you I have brown hair. And that barrettes made for blondes don't really go.
Yes, I am pedantic. I'm also right.
#21Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 12:39pm
"to the casting of Hodge, who made (to me at least) a fairly convincing woman as Zaza,"
Uhm....
Okay...
#22Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 1:18pmI still enjoy Scarlett thanking "the Canadian I live with". Mmmm, Ryan.
#23Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 1:23pmWhen I win, I'm thanking FindingNamo.
whatever2
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/25/06
#24Could These Straight Dudes Quit Thanking Their Wives?
Posted: 6/14/10 at 4:35pm
I work for the US subsidiary of a UK-based company. In dealing with my UK colleagues, i've noticed they tend to refer to "partners" regardless of marital status or orientation. i've even read it in corporate memos.
this all could just be a cultural difference. marriage rates are lower in the UK ... cohabitation is common even among couples with children ... civil unions are legal ... my impression is that it's easier just to employ the generic term "partner".
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