Cursed Child North American tour announced…. How?? — Page 2

I wonder what the message boards would have looked like when Phantom, Lez Miz, and Miss Saigon first went out on tour.

Can we stop pretending that shows can't tour because of the complexity (or perceived complexity) of their effects and staging? They clearly feel that they have adapted the effects for a tour. The only major complexity is the use of multiple traps, a couple of which can be resolved by building the stage over the pit (though not ideal for sight lines in balconies). Most everything else is stage haze and lighting. And while the Blacklick effect in Act 2 is pretty awesome on Broadway, it can easily be downsized for the type without affecting the show's visuals.

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Updated On: 10/16/23 at 11:01 PM

"shrill" is one of those dog whistle code words that is used to shut people up when they say something you do not want to hear. Why do you wish to silence them on this site? These opinions are certainly valid and not to be dismissed because they interfere with your illusions.

"An active moderator would likely say, "enough already, let's move on to discussing the original topic, possible staging changes for a Cursed Child tour." It's is one of the great things about the moderation team at theatreboard.co.uk/. They regularly move off-topic posts to new threads, delete inflammatory comments, and/or ask people to refocus their postings appropriately. Unsurprisingly, comments in general are more civil, more substantive, and less repetitive as a result."

I agree 100%. I would love it if they moved the off-topic posts to different thread. If you want to rant against JK Rowling, do it in another thread and not one talking about the staging of one of her shows.

Jay, you know fair well I have responded thoughtfully and open-mindedly to you because you complimented me for doing so in a response in another thread. But the more I tried to engage with you in a substantive manner, the more you demonstrated you weren't open to others' perspectives. In my earlier comment here (#31), I also did not name you or slander you, but instead spoke generally about a type of commenter, trying to be considerate.

There is nothing wrong with having strong convictions and sticking to them. But if someone repeatedly express the same points, it isn't surprising that people grow tired of it.

And it is a bit disingenuous to say we're all talking about the same show. You want to talk about why you think the show should not be supported because of J.K. Rowling. The thread is about the staging of the touring production. Not the same topics at all.

If you feel strongly that there is something new to be said or a productive discussion to be had about J.K.Rowling or other "problematic" artists and indirectly supporting them, perhaps you could try starting another thread focusing on that topic. Whether it also gets locked probably depends on the nature of any subsequent discussion.

In my professional role, I facilitate dozens of meetings every month. One of the principles we use in our discussions comes from the Quaker tradition. If someone in a meeting or conversation has expressed themselves and made their point, but the group does not agree, at some point it becomes incumbent upon that individual to let the group and the discussion advance. Part of being a member of any community or conversation is acknowledging when we've said our piece, but others feel differently and any further debate is likely to be unproductive.

Updated On: 10/17/23 at 09:47 AM

Jay Lerner-Z said: "If I started a new thread on, say, the new JK show in Melbourne, I would be met with the same abusive schtick that I've been getting all along. Every time somebody aims a snarky joke at me, followed my many people giving it the thumbs up, I am only encouraged to speak more. It shows me there is still a lot of work to be done. Perhaps you should have a word with those people too."

You asked what else you could do since your other thread got locked. I made a suggestion trying to be helpful. And with that, I'm done trying to engage in reasonable conversation with you as it once again goes nowhere productive and because you can only blame everyone else rather than consider how your own actions contribute.

Don't bother responding as I'll have you on Ignore from this point forward.

Updated On: 10/17/23 at 10:15 AM

Completely off-topic side convo truly aside, I think some folks in this thread fundamentally misunderstand how technically complex Cursed Child is in its current state and how vastly it differs from other touring productions. We’re talking arena-level fly systems and pyrotechnics, to say nothing of the deck requirements (traps, lifts, an entire pool, etc.). Even some of the biggest touring houses can’t support most of that. And unless they’re planning to have separate production plots depending on the house abilities, they’re going to have to design a show that takes all of that into consideration. Will it still be a lavish production that will wow audiences? Almost certainly. Their illusion and effects consultants are geniuses. But it will technically have to be stripped back.

Personally, I don’t think most audiences seeing this on tour will know or care about what they’re missing. The vast majority will have never seen it before.

I don't know if I could ever stomach buying a ticket for this show, but I would be absolutely fascinated to watch an in-depth documentary about the staging.

I’m not expecting the scenic team to go full out on redesigning the houses and and lobbies on tour, but I do hope it gives the Nederlander in Chicago some much needed TLC. There are broken doors, paint cracks here and there, and missing wall pieces(to name a few problems).

fashionguru_23 said: "I'm going to assume the writing on the walls might be a projection instead of invisible paint?"

That would be unfortunate. As simple as that effect is, it's really cool and it gets an audible reaction from the audience.

ColorTheHours048 said: "Completely off-topic side convo truly aside, I think some folks in this thread fundamentally misunderstand how technically complex Cursed Child is in its current state and how vastly it differs from other touring productions. We’re talking arena-level fly systems and pyrotechnics, to say nothing of the deck requirements (traps, lifts, an entire pool, etc.). Even some of the biggest touring houses can’t support most of that. And unless they’re planning to have separate production plots depending on the house abilities, they’re going to have to design a show that takes all of that into consideration. Will it still be a lavish production that will wow audiences? Almost certainly. Their illusion and effects consultants are geniuses. But it willtechnicallyhave to be stripped back.

Personally, I don’t think most audiences seeing this on tour will know or care about what they’re missing. The vast majority will have never seen it before."

I get that the answer is capitalism and money … but I don’t get why they even need to tour it. Make it a special once in a lifetime experience.