DEAR EVAN HANSEN Movie Musical - News & Discussion Thread- Page 21

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 12:31am

Sutton Ross said: "She can't sing well so.... It makes sense."

Amy may not be Patti LuPone, but she's proven to be one of the better actress-singers we've seen in musical films so... it doesn't make sense. 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 12:35am

It really does make sense to me, a person who expects people in movie musicals to be able to sing well. 

It's my opinion, feel free to have another one. 

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 12:39am

Sutton Ross said: It really does make sense to me, a person who expects people in movie musicals to be able to sing well. 

It's my opinion, feel free to have another one.

That's exactly what I was doing - stating my opinion. I don't, however, imply that my opinion is the only right opinion and I certainly don't talk down to others in a condescending manner......

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 12:56am

I implied nothing. This big box is for stating my opinion, others have different ones. How I wish to express my opinion isn't something for you to judge, though. Ever.

"Good For You" was a brilliant song for a very strong singer. There's a reason they cut it. It's a shame that Tony winner Rachel Bay Jones was not cast in this as she would have murdered that song. (again, my opinion). There doesn't need to be any stars in this movie, it won't be a blockbuster.

Amy Adams is a wonderful actress who just floored me in Sharp Objects. But, she is not a strong singer. And yes, that's my opinion.

Goodnight! 

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 1:02am

Sutton Ross said: "I implied nothing. Thisbig box is for stating my opinion, others have different ones. How I wish to express my opinion isn't something for you to judge, though. Ever.

"Good For You" was a brilliant song for a very strong singer. There's a reason they cut it. It's a shame that Tony winner Rachel Bay Jones was not cast in this as she would have murdered that song. (again, my opinion). There doesn't need to be any stars in this movie, it won't be a blockbuster.

Amy Adams is a wonderful actress who just floored me in Sharp Objects. But, she is not a strong singer. And yes, that's my opinion.

Goodnight!"

Amy Adams is not playing the same role as Rachel Bay Jones. And yes, I can judge how you express your opinions when you're constantly tearing down others because their opinions differ from yours. See your comment on this thread directed toward SouthernCakes. I suggest you grow up. Thanks, night! 

[BwayLB]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 9:35am

^ I would be excited if she was Heidi instead of Cynthia.

[52889j]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 10:08am

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It drives me up the wall that the musical and now the film adaptation are using this song to market the show as "inspirational" when in context, You Will Be Found is anything but. 

[ClumsyDude15]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 10:42am

^I think it very much can be two things regarding You Will Be Found. 

In the context of the show/movie, it is definitely a tricky moment for an audience member, because we're all aware of Evan's lie and how this kind of further pushes that. However, I also think Evan has a moment of revelation in that he's not as alone as he thought he was because there's plenty of people who feel like he does. So, again, it's tricky and really depends on how you personally view Evan in general. 

I think in general, the message of feeling not alone and feeling seen and heard that You Will Be Found presents is so universal and so touching that it's really hard not to feel something positive from it. I'm a bit biased because I do love the show, but You Will Be Found knocks me out every time, because I know exactly what the feeling in the song is describing and I think because that is so universal so do many others.  

Updated On: 8/27/21 at 10:42 AM

[SporkGoddess]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 10:55am

That video about "You Will Be Found"... is that really what it's about? I'm no DEH expert, but I thought that the song was meant as a tongue-in-cheek remark on viral movements and empty platitudes.

Also, I wish they'd cast Amy Adams as Evan's mom. Not only is she vocally stronger, but doesn't she seem more age appropriate? I think it makes more sense if Evan's mom was younger when she had him and got divorced.

Updated On: 8/27/21 at 10:55 AM

[BwayLB]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 11:23am

ClumsyDude15 said: "^I think it very much can be two things regarding You Will Be Found.

In the context of the show/movie, it is definitely a tricky moment for an audience member, because we're all aware of Evan's lie and how this kind of further pushes that. However, I also think Evan has a moment of revelation in that he's not as alone as he thought he was because there's plenty of people who feel like he does. So, again, it's tricky and really depends on how you personally view Evan in general.

I think in general, the message of feeling not alone and feeling seen and heard that You Will Be Found presents is so universal and so touching that it's really hard not to feel something positive from it. I'm a bit biased because I do love the show, but You Will Be Found knocks me out every time, because I know exactly what the feeling in the song is describing and I think because that is so universal so do many others."

I already loved the song before seeing the show. In spite i do forgive Evan goes on living but being alone again with only his mom and he helped others is not an ending worth getting crazy about at all.

[RippedMan]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 11:54am

HenryTDobson said: "Sutton Ross said: "She can't sing well so.... It makes sense."

Amy may not be Patti LuPone, but she's proven to be one of the better actress-singers we've seen in musical films so... it doesn't make sense."

Exactly. They made Meryl a big, Broadway belter in The Prom, and I was impressed. They could easily do the same here. 

[NameGreg]

Posted: 8/27/21 at 8:20pm

Hate that they cut two of Heidi’s three songs. Feels like a major disservice to the show’s largest and most developed character, excluding the lead. I’m sure Moore will still act the role really well, and So Big/So Small will always be a standout, but the lack of Good For You is an enormous missed opportunity. I don’t know if they were going in that direction first or it was based on casting, but this is really disappointing.

Also dislike the removal of Disappear. To Break in a Glove I understand, though I actually like that song and think it explores some interesting territory when it comes to the relationships between children and parents. Granted, the show does that elsewhere though.

What really bugs is me that they’re adding songs while also taking out some of the best numbers.

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 8/29/21 at 8:58am

Are they really making Candyman into a musical? Heavens!

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 8/29/21 at 9:04am

Broadway musical adaptation film with new songs always means

“POTENTIAL OF OSCAR” so that’s why.

That being said, Good For You might not have fit with the vibe of the movie.

[BwayLB]

Posted: 8/29/21 at 9:44am

Anybody Have A Map and Disappear are the ones I'm mostly disappointed being cut.

[Musical Master]

Posted: 8/29/21 at 10:28am

BwayLB said: "Anybody Have A Map and Disappear are the ones I'm mostly disappointed being cut."

Same. Also it's interesting that Connor's new song is the one at the end, is this a new finale to replace the one on stage? Looking at the featurette, I ultimately think this movie might turn out to be pretty decent at best and aggravatingly bland at worst.

Crossing my fingers that the live singing will be better handled than the way Tom Hooper has done it...

[BwayLB]

Posted: 8/29/21 at 10:30am

^ With all due respect, I'm not going to watch the movie since I'm not in the Pandemic mood to revisit DEH.

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 12:16pm

They posted a clip of him singing Waving Through a Window in the movie and THIS is really what made me go-they messed up royally by not casting a younger looking Evan.

Evan's choices DEPEND on us feeling empathy for an actual struggling kid. He does something really gross and despicable and it's only justifiable in some capacity cause he's a minor.

He truly truly looks too old.

Updated On: 8/30/21 at 12:16 PM

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 12:33pm

So, for you to feel empathy for someone, they need to be a minor or look like a minor. Cool cool. 

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 1:52pm

Sutton Ross said: "So, for you to feel empathy for someone, they need to be a minor or look like a minor. Cool cool."

Well that was a stunning misinterpretation of my point hahaha bravo. National enquirer levels.

THIS scenario. THIS lie he tells this grieving in pain family. I have empathy for a kid making choices like these ones specifically cause he does not have the brain development to realize the mental repercussions this has on the Murphy family

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 1:56pm

It really wasn't. Basically your point is: I want to feel empathy for a kid, not an adult. Talk about dumb statements. 

He isn't too old and the movie would not have been made without with as Evan. I don't think it matters at this point if you think he's too old. It's made, it will come out, and that will be that.

Your strange statement of "I need to feel empathy for a CHILD" is just creepy. 

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 2:41pm

So it's less creepy to you to feel empathy for an adult hoodwinking a grieving family and using their grief as a way to get close to their daughter?

You're virtue signaling with a truly truly straw man argument. 

It's a show about young people in pain very specifically and the choices they make when they feel alone. The choices he makes would be without question disturbing to watch as an audience if he was a fully developed adult.

That's all fine and good you clearly defensively love Ben Platt, but for the integrity of the story they're trying to tell, his casting is distracting.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 2:48pm

I tend to not care much about trust fund babies who never struggle once throughout their lives. So nah, Im pretty neutral on Ben. I loved his performance on stage and he deserved that Tony, though. In terms of the movie, he was the only person considered for Evan so him being "distracting" to you doesn't matter. 

It's so weird about people bitching about something they are not being forced to see. Wild. 

[rattleNwoolypenguin]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 3:00pm

Sutton Ross said: "I tend to not care much about trust fund babies who never struggle once throughout their lives."

I care in that I see my friends kill themselves to work in this industry so it's hard to see him just walk through open doors without obstacle.

so in that we agree

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 8/30/21 at 3:08pm

So have I, it's maddening at times. The privileged people in the world have no clue how normal people have to fight and struggle to break into a very difficult industry.