Daveed Diggs Set to Depart HAMILTON on Friday- Page 3

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:09am

If you read it in a derogatory way, that's on you. And nobody has clarified what is so damning about my calling a professional theatre production in Chicago "regional." I truly thought I was speaking factually. Happy to correct if somebody explains what's so wrong with the term.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:10am

BroadwayConcierge said: "Kinda weird that you're memorizing my "patterns" and "desires," but you do you, Heady. Have a wonderful Wednesday!

 

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Okay, great. To ensure no future double standards and hypocrisy on your part, never again tell or even recommend to users which threads they should be posting updates, developments, or otherwise in. There are literally thousands of threads you could have posted this announcement in but chose to create a new thread. Why? I have no clue. Perhaps you enjoy being the OP and control the conversation. 

[HarveyDent]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:12am

Something weird is going down at Hamilton.

[AnnieBlack]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:20am

Putting the announcement half way down a press release for a tony winning performer is simply odd. I understand wanting to make the show 'the star' but this just feels shady

[trpguyy]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:22am

As I've said on here before, morale is very low at the Rodgers. Sellers is tough, and it's a young/inexperienced GM team. I'm sure Diggs had every intention of staying much longer and continued to do the show in good faith before striking a deal, but negotiations must have just broken down and so now he leaves. 

It's business. His star is rising, he can do TV, film, music, for a lot more than what they'd pay him to stay in Hamilton.

[disneybroadwayfan22]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:23am

HarveyDent said: "Something weird is going down at Hamilton.

 

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Possibly. And it sounds like the producers could be taking advantage of the actors and pay like Leslie

[paphillyguy]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:26am

This is exactly the same scenario as with the taping contracts.  This was not planned this way however, from what I hear Daveed was working out his contract and agreed to stay on while they were negotiating and when things didn't work out he decided to leave.  Plain and simple, would you work without a contract?  The union will not allow it for an extended period of time.  Also, don't be surprised if there aren't 2 more in the near future.  The producers are playing hardball and they have a cash cow and with new less expensive cast there is more money.   

Updated On: 7/13/16 at 11:26 AM

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:28am

His name is Seller, not Sellers.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:35am

People work without contracts all the time: all that means is that the most recent contract is being followed.  Whether a new contract will be retroactive, however, would be part of negotiations.

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:36am

I wouldn't call the Hamilton sit down production in Chicago regional since the main production office for the show is in New York. I would say the goodman, steppenwolf and Chicago Shakespeare are regional theatres.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:38am

BroadwayConcierge said: "If you read it in a derogatory way, that's on you. And nobody has clarified what is so damning about my calling a professional theatre production in Chicago "regional." I truly thought I was speaking factually. Happy to correct if somebody explains what's so wrong with the term."

"Regional" refers to theatres that came into being as a part of the regional theatre movement. They are locally produced and almost always not for profit. Tours (or pre-Broadway tryouts) of Broadway shows, performed under the Production Contract, are never referred to that way. Your explanation of how you got to that use is understandable but that is not the commonly understood use of the term. There are of course thousands of common expressions in the theatre, which doesn't mean that a person cannot wander in and refer to something in a different way. But (as you see) people will be confused. 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:40am

disneybroadwayfan22 said: "HarveyDent said: "Something weird is going down at Hamilton."

Possibly. And it sounds like the producers could be taking advantage of the actors and pay like Leslie"

 

Care to elaborate on this? Care to explain how they're "taking advantage" of the actors? That suggests something of malicious intent, and not a practically-minded business decision. Please expand...

[Theater_Nerd]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:41am

This is so out of left field. I was also under the impression that he inked a new deal to stay on board. I'm sorry to hear he's decided to leave. He has a bright, bright future ahead of him as well as all the other principals who had the good fortune to be part of this very special and groundbreaking work.

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:43am

So thankful for your thoughtful and well-written response, Hogan. I am definitely more understanding in that regard now and appreciative of your understanding of where my initial mindset regarding that term was. I just hope nobody truly believes I was referring to this production derogatorily.

Thanks again.

[Tandrews]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:53am

Something weird is definitely going on behind the scenes. I have heard of grumblings from those in the biz regarding the GM team as well...I think it has led to some other earlier departures (even before the recent exodus) of some ensemble players FWIW.

[Hellob]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:59am

Why would they release a new poster if his leaving was planned? Why not just use the cast board for the week? I agree with those who feel like the real show is backstage. I don't see a reason why he wouldn't have just left last week if he was going anyway, he deserved the big Saturday night send off as much as the other 3. 

 

[trpguyy]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 11:59am

neonlightsxo said: "His name is Seller, not Sellers."

Yes. My quick typing and autocorrect clearly demonstrate that I'm uninformed and should not be allowed to post here. 

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:00pm

Even Mormon used one poster for only three days (Rannells/Gertner).

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:01pm

Hellob said: "Why would they release a new poster if his leaving was planned? Why not just use the cast board for the week? I agree with those who feel like the real show is backstage. I don't see a reason why he wouldn't have just left last week if he was going anyway, he deserved the big Saturday night send off as much as the other 3. "

 

And now he'll get his own big Friday night send-off, so I fail to see your point.

[Hellob]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:06pm

Tandrews said: "Something weird is definitely going on behind the scenes. I have heard of grumblings from those in the biz regarding the GM team as well...I think it has led to some other earlier departures (even before the recent exodus) of some ensemble players FWIW.

 

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I was there the night Chris Sacca had the fakes and the totally false story was printed. I ended up taking to him via Twitter DM and I guess he called the writer who told/hinted it was the theater manager and told him that she's a piece of work, Trump supporter and other things. I don't know what's true or if the reporter was trying to deflect attention from the real informant but either way, that story was totally false except for the having fakes. But it sounds like the same person you're referring to so I can see it being hard to be around them. 

[disneybroadwayfan22]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:07pm

Leslie Odom Jr. nearly missed on recording the Hamilton performance due to $$ and now Daveed is leaving at the last second 

[Hellob]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:08pm

@Lizas I highly doubt the situation will be anything close to the energy and excitement of last Saturday. 

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:08pm

Whaaaaaat daaaaaaa fuqqqqq!!! What in the hell is going on down there @ the RRT?!?! I know people leave shows all the time but damn that came out of nowhere! I'm not gonna sit here and speculate as to why this went down the way it did. But damn I'm sorry to see him leave! 

And Liza, is it now your job to sit there and scan posts you don't particularly like so that you can then bash them and put them down from your soap box. Because if it is, it truly must suck to be you. 

Find another hobby dude. 

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:22pm

disneybroadwayfan22 said: "Leslie Odom Jr. nearly missed on recording the Hamilton performance due to $$ and now Daveed is leaving at the last second "

 

That has nothing to do with taking advantage of anyone. It's called show business for a reason. Equity tours employing non-equity actors would be taking advantage. Recruiting interns to handle tasks that should be done by professionals would be taking advantage. Refusing to concede or budge in negotiations? That's not "taking advantage." It's just part of life. 

I still have no clue how so many people who aren't even directly impacted by these decisions end up personalizing them so much. Have none of you ever negotiated with HR departments for promotions or wage raises? You're making it far too personal. It is what it is: a for-profit business. 

[10086sunset]

Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:23pm

AnnieBlack said: "Putting the announcement half way down a press release for a tony winning performer is simply odd. I understand wanting to make the show 'the star' but this just feels shady

 

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Shady is the right word.

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark....

Updated On: 7/13/16 at 12:23 PM