Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:35pm
And now Renee is leaving sooner than expected for a Netflix show.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Updated On: 7/13/16 at 12:35 PM
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:46pm
Andy Jones, the GM, and his company Baseline Theatrical, have only ever GMed one other show - The Last Ship. To say that Hamilton has been a learn-on-the-go experience, and that it's not necessarily going well for everyone involved, would be an understatement.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:47pm
Sooner than expected??? I didn't realize you knew how long she had extended for.
Shes leaving in the fall for a television show. That could be September... It could be November. Also, it's television. The paycheck will be exponentially hire. The only "fire" here is the principal actors realize their stock has risen dramatically, and they need to take advantage of that while they can.
It is a reasonable business decision and I'm sure the producers are more than happy to oblige, as it will reduce their weekly operating costs. Again: I do not see the big deal here. It's show business, people.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:48pm
What's the source of Renee leaving
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:49pm
trpguyy said: "Andy Jones, the GM, and his company Baseline Theatrical, have only ever GMed one other show - The Last Ship. To say that Hamilton has been a learn-on-the-go experience, and that it's not necessarily going well for everyone involved, would be an understatement.
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^^^^^^^This!
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:51pm
disneybroadwayfan22 said: "What's the source of Renee leaving"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/renee-elise-goldsberry-exit-hamilton-910560?utm_source=twitter
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:55pm
there is so much mis-information and conjecture (not to mention unsubstantiated gossip parading as inside knowledge) in this thread that it makes one's head spin. There are weird things going down but none are weirder than most of what's being said here.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:55pm
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:57pm
I've said it before. Something shady is going on behind the scenes. Seems like stingy producers. Why the hell wouldn't Daveed have left last week. He deserved the big send off just as much as Lin, Leslie and pippa. Hopefully the producers are careful or they might have some bad publicity on their hands.
Updated On: 7/13/16 at 12:57 PM
Posted: 7/13/16 at 12:59pm
BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T COME TO TERMS ON A NEW CONTRACT!!! Someone please roll me into the asylum now...
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:00pm
trpguyy said: "Andy Jones, the GM, and his company Baseline Theatrical, have only ever GMed one other show - The Last Ship. To say that Hamilton has been a learn-on-the-go experience, and that it's not necessarily going well for everyone involved, would be an understatement.
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I didn't realize RENT, AVENUE Q, IN THE HEIGHTS, HIGH FIDELITY and WHITE CHRISTMAS are no longer considered "shows." http://www.baselinetheatrical.com/roster.html
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:03pm
Producers sign on and front the cash to make money. People like Seller and Stone have horrible reputations, but they are business men. Actors don't front the cash. They are always free to walk if they don't like the offer-and its seems like that is what people are choosing.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:03pm
Liza's Headband said: "trpguyy said: "Andy Jones, the GM, and his company Baseline Theatrical, have only ever GMed one other show - The Last Ship. To say that Hamilton has been a learn-on-the-go experience, and that it's not necessarily going well for everyone involved, would be an understatement."
I didn't realize RENT, AVENUE Q, IN THE HEIGHTS, HIGH FIDELITY and WHITE CHRISTMAS are no longer considered "shows." http://www.baselinetheatrical.com/roster.html"
Google is a neat thing (as is first-hand knowledge of the situation). Andy Jones was either the company manager or assistant/associate on those shows. He became a GM by starting his own company, Baseline, and his first show was The Last Ship. Hamilton is his second.
https://www.ibdb.com/Person/View/493513
https://www.ibdb.com/Organization/View/498427
Updated On: 7/13/16 at 01:03 PM
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:04pm
Bettyboy72 said: "Producers sign on and front the cash to make money. People like Seller and Stone have horrible reputations, but they are business men. Actors don't front the cash. They are always free to walk if they don't like the offer-and its seems like that is what people are choosing."
And when a show is essentially sold out for the next 9 months there is little to no incentive for the producers to offer the cast more money to stick around. Their first responsibility is to the investors, not the fans.
Updated On: 7/13/16 at 01:04 PM
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:06pm
trpguyy - while General Management is involved with negotiations and assists on the legal and practical end, they are not the ones calling the shots and cannot be blamed (nor credited) for any labor disputes. It falls squarely on the shoulders of the lead producer and his/her production or management office, which is separate from an outside firm, like Baseline, contracted to handle general management.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:06pm
trpguyy said: "Liza's Headband said: "trpguyy said: "Andy Jones, the GM, and his company Baseline Theatrical, have only ever GMed one other show - The Last Ship. To say that Hamilton has been a learn-on-the-go experience, and that it's not necessarily going well for everyone involved, would be an understatement."
I didn't realize RENT, AVENUE Q, IN THE HEIGHTS, HIGH FIDELITY and WHITE CHRISTMAS are no longer considered "shows." http://www.baselinetheatrical.com/roster.html"
Google is a neat thing. Andy Jones was either the company manager or assistant/associate on those shows. He became a GM by starting his own company, Baseline, and his first show was The Last Ship. Hamilton is his second.
https://www.ibdb.com/Person/View/493513
https://www.ibdb.com/Organization/View/498427"
True, but I don't think this is the fault of the GM.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:07pm
You've obviously never been in a labor dispute. Your post is almost 100% inaccurate.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:08pm
neon - we were on the same page, and both correct, as usual. :)
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:08pm
trpguyy said: "You've obviously never been in a labor dispute. Your post is almost 100% inaccurate."
I'll have to inform my employer of this news and clear out my desk immediately, then. I have clearly been doing something wrong these last 17 years.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:09pm
The ticket resale prices are plumetting though. It's weird because the Chicago show is selling well.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:10pm
neonlightsxo said: "True, but I don't think this is the fault of the GM."
Not entirely, no, but General Management sets the tone of the company and can create an environment that either makes the employees happy, or disgruntled. You can figure out the rest.
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:12pm
Liza's Headband said: " have clearly been doing something wrong these last 17 years. "
Probably longer, so it seems
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:12pm
Sorry, I'm not super well versed in behind the scenes stuff, but can someone kindly explain the difference between the general management and company management? Their duties, are they at the theater each day? etc. Thank you!
Posted: 7/13/16 at 1:13pm
I guess so! Shame on me for pretending since 1999. I'm embarrassed and ashamed. Excuse me while I go inform them of my resignation.
