Disney's THE LITTLE MERMAID live-action movie musical - News & Discussion Thread — Page 4

hearthemsing22 said: "Dark_Vader said: "hearthemsing22 said: "Dark_Vader said: "The uproar over Halle Bailey's casting in this film is disturbing. It's also happening with the casting choices for House of the Dragon and Rings of Power.

No matter how these objectors try to justify their views it is blatant racism. Where was it ever written that any of these characters had to be specifically white?

These are tales that are rooted in fantasy!The racist backlash to people of color in fantasy is rooted in a larger desire to erase us from all facets of society."

So me saying I don’t understand the point of a remake is me being racist? No, I said that about The Lion King, which I tried to watch and it was just…weird seeing the real animals talking. Ooof. I’ve said that about Beauty and the Beast (.Emma Watson version) This does not mean I’m racist."

Nowhere in my post did i mention you and my post was not directed at you.

What is wrong with you?"

Absolutely nothing :) I’m trying to explain that not every single person who says they don’t want this remake-that doesn’t mean they’re racist"

You are “explaining” to something that I never wrote. Nowhere in my post did I write that anyone was racist for not wanting this remake.

Finally got to watch the whole song and I really loved it! I still feel the last riff softens the impact, but I’ll still be listening and relistening when the soundtrack is released! I don’t think anyone on here is “overreacting” about the choices being made. Honestly, I don’t even think the speculation about how Howard Ashman might react is that outrageous based on what information we have about how he coached songs like these. People are impassioned about these films and for many of us (maybe all of us?) these late 80’s-early 00’s “I want” songs and their characters were surrogates for our own pangs, unexpressed/stigmatized wants, etc. - so I get people having strong reactions to a different interpretation. I’m very excited to see more! I’m already a fan of the overall look and sound of it and based on the full clip, I suspect HB will deliver an amazing performance.

Chase Miller said: "I didn't like the riff at first but then I heard the full leak. The riff sounds great when you hear the entire song. Halle sounds stunning. I think some are overreacting to the riff."

I actually feel the opposite. Hearing the whole song, I understand what people mean now about her choosing to emphasize words strangely. But it's done now and will be received however it will be received. I was a fan before and I'll still be a fan of hers even if I think the movie could have been better with a different director.

I actually feel the opposite. Hearing the whole song, I understand what people mean now about her choosing to emphasize words strangely. But it's done now and will be received however it will be received. I was a fan before and I'll still be a fan of hers even if I think the movie could have been better with a different director."

To each their own. I thought this new version of the song improves upon the original. I felt more emotion with how Halle sung some of the lyrics. Especially the "Burn" note

Seb28 said: "Emma_Pillsbury said: "She did a beautiful job with the song - "riff" and all."

Can you tell me what you find so beautiful about the wrong note in the line "BUT who cares"? NO big deal, I want more".

"But" and "no" are now the exact same low notes, which makes that part repetitive instead of confirming of Ariel's opinion. In the actual melody the word "but" is much higher. And she confirms it to herself with the lower "No". Now she just repeats herself. She basically makes the melody of the song disappear. Pity. The real melody is nowhere in the song any longer. What do you like about that?

I also dislike the "what's a fire AND why does it". The loud, screaming emphasis on the word AND makes no sense at all. She sounds angry there and really disconnected from the intention of the song. Too much soul diva. Why is that wrong emphasis appealing to you?

The last note of the song, the word "world" is sung much too loud and aggressive, right after the "Bee-hee-iieeeeh-yeah" ad-lib. Both moments should be subdued and silent in longing. Now it sounds affected and takes away from the moment and song. Can you tell me what you like about that?

I also find her pronunciation lazy and pop diva-ish at times, which takes away from the intention. Does insincerity appeal to you?

There is one moment in the song that I do like and that is the "abo-ho-hove", because that is the only part that actually fits the music and intention of the lyric and melody. The violins normally do that melody too, and that actually ads to the story telling. It's a shame the rest of the whole song is such a mess. 1 note that is right and sincere is not enough for me to enjoy a whole song.


I found her voice beautiful and I loved her interpretation. And I'll just leave it at that.

I am sorry you weren't pleased with it.

Have a wonderful evening.

Seb28 said: "Emma_Pillsbury said: "I loved her interpretation. And I'll just leave it at that.

I am sorry you weren't pleased with it.

Have a wonderful evening."

I'm sorry you can't even explain yourself about what you like about all the moments in the song I mentioned. That means you don't have a well formed and substantiated opinion. Because you either don't listen to all those moments, or you can say what you actually like about them.

Have a wonderful evening loving interpretations."

You can love something without knowing why you love it - you can just feel it. I'll often eat a dish and have no idea what's in it or why I like it - but I just know that I love it. Same with music, you don't have to be able to break down every single word or moment to simply enjoy it.

It's also okay to like different things. Just because you didn't, even with your detailed analysis, doesn't mean someone else can't.

Seb28 said: "Emma_Pillsbury said: "I loved her interpretation. And I'll just leave it at that.

I am sorry you weren't pleased with it.

Have a wonderful evening."

I'm sorry you can't even explain yourself about what you like about all the moments in the song I mentioned. That means you don't have a well formed and substantiated opinion. Because you either don't listen to all those moments, or you can say what you actually like about them.

Have a wonderful evening loving interpretations."

And I'm sorry that instead of accepting the answer I gave gracefully you chose behind the comfort of anonymity to take the low road by being unnecessarily rude and condescending to me.

Where is it written that I owe you an explanation about anything?

I am sure you are losing much sleep over all of this.

I on the other hand, am not.

You have yourself an incredibly wonderful day...or not.

Updated On: 9/13/22 at 10:47 AM

"I want someone who understands and respects the material and who makes choices in meaningful ways. Is that too much to ask for these days?"

Then tell that to Alan Meken (he wrote the material) and LMM. What you want is a CARBON COPY of what was. If that's the case, then just watch the original and don't move forward in life. The creators (including the artist) made these creative choices--how about respecting them to make these creative choices overall? You don't have to like them, but go in with an open mind to see something new; they did.

I was not expecting the riff, but actually feel that it works--brings more depth to the lyric and gives that "I want song" something to grab on too, before she hit's that last note. It works for me.

hearthemsing22 said: "I have absolutely NOTHING against anyone in this movie. I just do not see the need for so many remakes. Original stories are needed so much more."

This is such a hollow ****ing critique in particular as it pertains Disney which made its fortune on adapting well known fairytales to screen that had been (and still are) adapting multiple times over. Disney has many new films that they put out. Encanto, Coco, Onward, Soul, Raya and the Last Dragon, Turning Red, etc.

If you're not watching those original stories, it says more about you than it does about the existence of these remakes. Are they a money grab? Absolutely! Are we going to pretend this is anymore aggrandizing than the era of Direct to Video sequels & prequels.

Emma_Pillsbury said: "

And I'm sorry that instead of accepting the answer I gave gracefully you chose behind the comfort of anonymity to take the low road by being unnecessarily rude and condescending to me.

Where is it written that I owe you an explanation about anything?

I am sure you are losing much sleep over all of this.

I on the other hand, am not.

You have yourself an incredibly wonderful day...or not."

I just asked you some questions about notes and melodies in the song. Which is kind of the point of liking a song or not. But please do not explain and have great day.

Updated On: 9/14/22 at 06:26 AM

"Part of Your World" = "Somewhere That's Green". Menken & Ashman were their very own "plagiarists". LOL.

Joviedamian said: ""I want someone who understands and respects the material and who makes choices in meaningful ways. Is that too much to ask for these days?"

Then tell that to Alan Meken (he wrote the material) and LMM. What you want is a CARBON COPY of what was. If that's the case, then just watch the original and don't move forward in life. The creators (including the artist) made these creative choices--how about respecting them to make these creative choices overall? You don't have to like them, but go in with an open mind to see something new; they did.

I was not expecting the riff, but actually feel that it works--brings more depth to the lyric and gives that "I want song" something to grab on too, before she hit's that last note. It works for me."

Would help if you do your research first. LMM DID NOT write the song. Alan Menken AND Howard Ashman did. And there has been umpteen information about how the song was intended to be perform by Ashman. Also, do you know appeal to authority is actually a logical fallacy?

And addressing the specific point you made. Yes it's about this "something to grab on to[sic]," but the point here is that there's nothing to actually grab on to since at this point there's no conceivable way for her to live on land. So the passion people have been praising Bailey about needs to be dampened, and not overdoing the last few lines is exactly the poignant disillusionment anyone who "understands and respects the material and who makes choices in meaningful ways" would consider doing.