"'FOSSE/VERDON' COMING TO FX"- Page 14

[MarkBearSF]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 12:43am

SmoothLover said: "The reviewer in the New Yorker...
We can find things that we think work better than others or we can be critical of the approach but most of us want to tune in because we love the world of theatre from the performances to the backstage drama."

Agreed. Not unlike SMASH a few years ago.

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 1:04am

I thought last night's episode was the best yet by far! Everyone's been complaining that Bob Fosse wasn't as awful as he has been portrayed: well, last night's episode showed him finally considering Verdon's needs and agreeing to start on CHICAGO while filming LENNY, even at the expense of his own health!

More importantly to me--since Michele Williams is the heart of the show in my eyes--we finally got to see that Verdon was no less ambitious than Fosse himself. And I think that truth is more important than whatever liberties were taken with the calendar or geography. The woman didn't win four Tony Awards (in a decade where Merman had one and Martin had but two) just because she put on a happy face when she entered a room!

[Stage Door Sally]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 6:06am

Very well said about watching this show because it is about theater. That's where I'm at. The humorless, charmless way Fosse is being portrayed completely loses me.  And yes, it is the writing, but it is also Rockwell. He is painfully wrong for this role.

[bk]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 4:35pm

It's not just the geography and calendar liberties - it's making stuff up that did not happen ever.  Apparently, those who can find nothing wrong with this show think "dramatic license" (the writers admit that this latest episode is fiction) is fine because that's the story the writers want to tell.  Well, this show is about real people who had plenty of real drama in their lives.  The writing is lazy, sloppy, and completely soap opera and it didn't have to be.  That's my opinion and I'm certainly not alone in it.  Read John Rubinstein's comments, which I posted here.  

So, if someone were making a film about your life and just made stuff up that presented you in a really bad light, that would be fine because it's dramatic license?  Because presenting Bob Fosse as if he could not make a single creative choice without Ms. Verdon's help is patently ridiculous.

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 4:45pm

bk said: "It's not just the geography and calendar liberties - it's making stuff up that did not happen ever. Apparently, those who can find nothing wrong with this show think "dramatic license" (the writers admit that this latest episode is fiction) is fine because that's the story the writers want to tell. Well, this show is about real people who had plenty of real drama in their lives. The writing is lazy, sloppy, and completely soap opera and it didn't have to be. That's my opinion and I'm certainly not alone in it. Read John Rubinstein's comments, which I posted here.

So, if someone were making a film about your life and just made stuff up that presented you in a really bad light, that would be fine because it's dramatic license? Because presenting Bob Fosse as if he could not make a single creative choice without Ms. Verdon's help is patently ridiculous."

You seriously need to let it go.  Geez, Louise.  The energy you invest in your dissection of each episode needs to be used more productively.  Wow!  

I’m a Bob Fosse authority of sorts and spot countless slip ups (most notably the fact Bob Fosse never rented any property in Southampton), yet love watching the series to the point of literally crying tears during many moments that have hit home for me.  It’s a damn series about their lives.  It isn’t a documentary.  Had it been a documentary, then I would share every view you have.  A documentary should be fact-checked for its life.  

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 4:56pm

The next FX bio-miniseries will be: Brody/bk.

Personally, I can’t wait for the fireworks and inaccuracies!!!!

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 5:15pm

...and one of them will die

[sabrelady]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 6:58pm

Rock, paper, scissors, Spock, lizard!

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 7:10pm

I want the next series to be Feud: Martin/Channing

[Stage Door Sally]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 7:57pm

Don't want to prolong the negativity, but when Bohemian Rhapsody came out there were a lot of very vocal critics on this board upset about the factual inaccuracies in the film. I liked the film, but believe it would have been so much better if they didn't fabricate so much.

[Stage Door Sally]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 7:57pm

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Updated On: 5/10/19 at 07:57 PM

[Kristie-K2]

Posted: 5/9/19 at 9:25pm

I adore Michelle Williams.....She must get at least an Emmy Nomination.

I got to see her on Broadway.....We talked for a few minutes after the

show......She is so sweet....I am so happy for her.....What an Actress

[bk]

Posted: 5/10/19 at 12:57am

And I worked soooo hard on my pithy response and it appears Brody/Fosse or some other oh so sensitive type had it removed.  I thought it was pretty funny.  But if my post was removed why wasn't his "Geez Louise post removed?  

Anyway, the Brody/BK film is coming soon.  

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 5/10/19 at 2:52pm

bk said: "And I worked soooo hard on my pithy response and it appears Brody/Fosse or some other oh so sensitive type had it removed. I thought it was pretty funny. But if my post was removed why wasn't his "Geez Louise post removed?

Anyway, the Brody/BK film is coming soon."

Brody/BK - I'd pay top dollar to see that. Will we get a behind the scenes look at the development of "The First Nudie Musical"? Would love to see that. LOL!

[HereAndThere2]

Posted: 5/10/19 at 9:55pm

Today I read that Gwen Verdon was a cat fancier, with upwards of six cats at a time.  As a lifelong lover of felines myself, knowing that makes me appreciate and respect (and miss) Gwen all the more.

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 5/11/19 at 9:44am

HereAndThere2 said: "Today I read that Gwen Verdon was a cat fancier, with upwards of six cats at a time. As a lifelong lover of felines myself, knowing that makes me appreciate and respect (and miss) Gwen all the more."

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 5/11/19 at 11:02am

And yet these multitudes of cats are no where to be seen in the miniseries. Inaccuracies! Why...it’s OUTRAGE! I’m writing the President!!!!

[TotallyEffed]

Posted: 5/11/19 at 11:20am

Can you imagine Trump tweeting about Gwen Verdon?

“I saw Verdon at Studio 54 once - looked old, legs not as nice as you’d think. Raspy voiced and nasty as they come. Covered in cat hair. Very sad woman. Couldn’t keep a man or a job for longer than a year, loser.”

[Bettyboy72]

Posted: 5/12/19 at 11:29pm

TotallyEffed said: "Can you imagine Trump tweeting about Gwen Verdon?

“I saw Verdon at Studio 54 once - looked old, legs not as nice as you’d think. Raspy voiced and nasty as they come. Covered in cat hair. Very sad woman. Couldn’t keep a man or a job for longer than a year, loser.”"

You win the internet today. :)

[kofler22]

Posted: 5/14/19 at 11:31pm

Tonight’s episode was in cre de ble!!!!

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 5/14/19 at 11:35pm

What I appreciated the most about the episode tonight was that I felt empathy for Fosse which I had not felt in prior episodes. Between the way his parents treated him and the heart attack it was all kind of depressing. Was that Brandon Uranowitz as Lenny in the film clips?

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 5/14/19 at 11:46pm

Was that Brandon Uranowitz as Lenny in the film clips?

Yes. I previously mentioned he would be playing Dustin Hoffman in the series. 

[SmoothLover]

Posted: 5/14/19 at 11:57pm

Did Gwen really have a boyfriend named Ron?

 

Fosse was involved in so many interesting projects that a mini series could have been built around Chicago alone.

Updated On: 5/15/19 at 11:57 PM

[ljay889]

Posted: 5/15/19 at 12:23am

SmoothLover said: "Did Gwen really have a boyfriend named Ron?



Fosse was involved in so many interesting projects that a mini series could have been built around Chicago alone."

I was thinking that too. The creation of Chicago is intriguing enough for its own miniseries. 

Of course, the ideal miniseries about the making of a musical would be Ted Chapin’s Everything Was Possible: the birth of the musical Follies. 

[ACL2006]

Posted: 5/15/19 at 9:04am

yeah, a stunning episode last night. Saw a different side of Fosse (& Gwen, too). Next week seems to really center around Chicago. And a special shout-out to Bianca Marroquin as Chita last night!! Finally got to see her as Chita and she was amazing!!