HAMILTON Principal Cast Replacements- Page 31

[ozjust4]

Posted: 1/4/17 at 11:25am

"Seth Stewart was just awful as Lafayette/Jefferson so let's hope he's taken out of that role ASAP."

I have to say that is French accent sucks....like a lot, but his Jefferson is much better than his Lafayette.
 

Updated On: 1/4/17 at 11:25 AM

[somechrysanthemumtea]

Posted: 1/4/17 at 11:28am

When I saw the show on December 7th, Mandy was perfect - kept up with the orchestra, on pitch and delivered an emotional performance. 

Seth Stewart's entire Guns & Ships was indecipherable. His Jefferson was better - but not by that much. 

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 1/4/17 at 11:42am

KingOPancakes said: "Also... is the lack of a Lafayette/Jefferson announcement driving anyone else as crazy as it is me?  I thought Seth Stewart was just covering the role until the end of the year?"

Clearly he's playing the role for longer.

[ChairinMain]

Posted: 1/4/17 at 7:32pm

The criticisms leveled at Seth and Mandy on this form are not quite, perhaps, indicative of their performances but of just how hard the score is and just how good Renee and Daveed were in these roles. 

[4getmenot]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:27am

ChairinMain said: "The criticisms leveled at Seth and Mandy on this form are not quite, perhaps, indicative of their performances but of just how hard the score is and just how good Renee and Daveed were in these roles. 

 

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I am not sure I agree.  I have a hard time imagining a world where you can't put professionally trained actors together with a dialect coach to come up with a French accent that would convince a lay-person.  In Seth Stewart's case, the accent was a really bad mix of non existent languages; it was quite distracting in terms of appreciating the overall show.

Updated On: 1/5/17 at 02:27 AM

[RussT2]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 11:26am

BroadwayConcierge said: "Also, looks like Jevon McFerrin will be on for Hamilton on Friday the 6th. "

Javier will not be performing at the 8pm performance on January 6th?

This will be my and my boyfriend's first time seeing Hamilton and we really wanted to see Javier.

 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 11:29am

Sorry to say, but that doesn't look likely, RussT2. It seems Javi is on vacation.

[ljay889]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 11:57am

ChairinMain said: "The criticisms leveled at Seth and Mandy on this form are not quite, perhaps, indicative of their performances but of just how hard the score is and just how good Renee and Daveed were in these roles. "

Mandy might not be as good with the rapping, but she could (and does) outsing Renee in the role. Renee has a lovely voice, but Mandy is a powerhouse vocalist. 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 12:15pm

ljay889 said: "she could (and does) outsing Renee in the role."

I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree with this. I can't identify a single element of Mandy's performance that was better than Renée's. 

Edit: I thought I was crazy when I saw it, but when Mandy entered the stage for "It's Quiet Uptown," I thought she had a slight smile on her face. It was so jarring and so bizarre, and so I thought maybe I just saw her wrong or something. But I had a friend who visited the show a few weeks ago who pointed out the very same thing (and I hadn't told her anything about my thoughts). I think there are a lot of strange choices in Mandy's performance and I really don't think she comes close to Renée's total powerhouse. Renée's "Satisfied" felt like a punch to the gut; Mandy's "Satisfied" felt like another song in the show.

Updated On: 1/5/17 at 12:15 PM

[ljay889]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 1:26pm

Mandy is an experienced and qualified singer and actress. If you have issues with certain aspects of her performance, take it up with the director. She wasn't just thrown on the stage and left to do whatever. I am sure you were too young to have seen her LIVE in Heights and Wicked, but she was perfectly cast and well directed in each show, and didn't receive the criticism that the Hamilton fanatics keep throwing at her. At the end of the day, Angelica isn't a very large role, one major song basically defines the part, and I think fans have trouble letting go of Renee's winning performance, but this always happens with early replacements in mega popular shows with a strong fan following, i.e: Rent, Wicked, etc. 

[KingOPancakes]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 1:30pm

ljay889 said:
Mandy might not be as good with the rapping, but she could (and does) outsing Renee in the role. Renee has a lovely voice, but Mandy is a powerhouse vocalist. 

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I had the pleasure of seeing Renee once and Mandy twice and I couldn't disagree more.  Renee's Angelica stood out while Mandy's vocals cause Angelica to blend into the background.

[Alexander Lamar]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 1:48pm

Well I saw Mandy in In The Heights and Wicked as well. She was FANTASTIC in ITH, probably my favorite part of the cast. I felt her Elphaba was meh, and as I've reflected further on her Angelica, I still didn't enjoy her. Her rapping wasn't good and the tone of her voice wasn't pleasant to my ears. But that's my opinion, not facts. 

[adamgreer]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:04pm

I haven't seen Mandy in Hamilton, so I won't comment on her performance in the show.  However, anyone who thinks Renee Elise Goldsberry (who was wonderful in The Color Purple, didn't see her in Hamilton) is a better singer than Mandy Gonzalez needs to get their head examined.  Goldsberry is a great actress, but her voice is nowhere near as good as Mandy's. 

Updated On: 1/5/17 at 02:04 PM

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:05pm

ljay889 said: "Mandy is an experienced and qualified singer and actress. If you have issues with certain aspects of her performance, take it up with the director. She wasn't just thrown on the stage and left to do whatever. I am sure you were too young to have seen her LIVE in Heights and Wicked, but she was perfectly cast and well directed in each show, and didn't receive the criticism that the Hamilton fanatics keep throwing at her. At the end of the day, Angelica isn't a very large role, one major song basically defines the part, and I think fans have trouble letting go of Renee's winning performance, but this always happens with early replacements in mega popular shows with a strong fan following, i.e: Rent, Wicked, etc. "

 

I'm with you on this. But this is what happens when shows get a young fandom...

 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:05pm

adamgreer said: "I haven't seen Mandy in Hamilton, so"

The proper way to finish that sentence is "my two cents on this otherwise-educated conversation aren't valid."

[ljay889]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:13pm

Adamgreer said nothing about her performance in Hamilton. It seems that some want to discredit Mandy's talent for whatever reason, and it appears it's from the tween crowd who were not lucky enough to have seen her in prior shows, which Adamgreer has. 

Updated On: 1/5/17 at 02:13 PM

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:15pm

BroadwayConcierge, how convenient that you ignored the second half of the sentence: "I haven't seen Mandy in Hamilton, so I won't comment on her performance in the show. "

 

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:16pm

I'm not trying to discredit Mandy's talent at all! I think she's a sensational singer who clearly has tremendous acting skills. I just don't think Angelica is a role that highlights them all that well for her.

[ray-andallthatjazz86]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:17pm

I can't speak to Mandy Gonzalez's performance. But Ljay is right in that she is a great vocalist and a great actress. Having seen Karen Olivo a couple of weeks ago, I can say I don't think anyone will be able to rap the role like Goldsberry but then again no one will be able to rap like Miranda or Odom. People have to let go of that and appreciate the performances on their own. So Olivo could not rap with the seamlessness that characterized Goldsberry's take on the role, but she delivered an intense, beautifully acted take on Angelica. Her voice was incredible and her acting reminded us all why she is a Tony winner and why she is so sorely missed on Broafway. The point being is time to let go of tbe OBCR and start taking in these new performers on their own without unmerited comparisons. I hope I get to see Gonzalez as Angelica, she's one of the best musical theatre actresses working today.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:20pm

neonlightsxo said: "BroadwayConcierge, how convenient that you ignored the second half of the sentence: "I haven't seen Mandy in Hamilton, so I won't comment on her performance in the show. "

 

 

Reading comprehension has never been his strong suit.  

I have no idea how good or bad she is in Hamilton.  I'm simply saying that there's little doubt she's a better singer than Renee Elise Goldsberry, who I'm not discrediting either- she's a wonderful actress, and she may well act the role better than Gonzalez.  I just find it funny that people are making Mandy out to be some low rent, non-singing performer they found on the streets. 

[RussT2]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:23pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "Sorry to say, but that doesn't look likely, RussT2. It seems Javi is on vacation."

 

I can't seem to find any reviews of McFerrin's performance in the show. Does anyone have an opinion on his take as Alexander Hamilton?

 

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:24pm

I don't think he's been on for Hamilton yet, so you'll be the first.

[BroadwayConcierge]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:28pm

The whole point of this conversation is for people who have seen Mandy Gonzalez as Angelica Schuyler to comment on her performance. To compare Goldsberry's vocal performance in a show she was in 11 years ago to somebody else's performance that one hasn't even seen yet means you aren't actually contributing anything valuable to the conversation. 

adamgreer said: "I just find it funny that people are making Mandy out to be some low rent, non-singing performer they found on the streets."

Also, who has done this...?

Updated On: 1/5/17 at 02:28 PM

[adamgreer]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:33pm

BroadwayConcierge said: "The whole point of this conversation is for people who have seen Mandy Gonzalez as Angelica Schuyler to comment on her performance. To compare Goldsberry's vocal performance in a show she was in 11 years ago to somebody else's performance that one hasn't even seen yet means you aren't actually contributing anything valuable to the conversation. 

adamgreer said: "I just find it funny that people are making Mandy out to be some low rent, non-singing performer they found on the streets."

Also, who has done this...?

 

You've never contributed anything of value to this board, well, ever. So there's that. 

My gosh, the Hamilton Kids are a defensive lot, aren't they? 

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 1/5/17 at 2:36pm

Yeah.