HONEYMOON IN VEGAS struggling on Broadway- Page 34

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:19pm

Zhivago has been seen, dear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Zhivago_(musical)

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:23pm

...recently...in NYC

:)

[Kad]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:30pm

You were judging An American in Paris before it had been seen. In NYC.

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:36pm

yeah but that was easy to see since its a dance show that doesn't have an original score. Doctor Zhivago will be better, and plus they've been working on it for a long time now. And some people who have seen some incarnation of the show thought it was pretty good.

[PianoMann]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:39pm

The argument that "they've been working on it for a long time now" has no correlation to the quality of the final product. Hasn't It Shoulda Been You been in the works for four years now?

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:41pm

PhillyPinto, were not people wildly enthusiastic about An American in Paris in its immediately previous incarnation?

Stahp!

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:42pm

"And some people who have seen some incarnation of the show thought it was pretty good."

And some people who have seen some incarnation of the show thought it was not very good at all.

Anecdotal opinions mean nothing.

[Phillypinto]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:47pm

"were not people wildly enthusiastic about An American in Paris in its immediately previous incarnation?"
That was only a movie.

"The argument that 'they've been working on it for a long time now' has no correlation to the quality of the final product."

it doesn't have a correlation but that just because they've been working on it for a long time doesn't mean its not gonna be good either.

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 4:52pm

No, Broadway's American in Paris was not immediately preceded by the movie. It tries out IN PARIS.

[PianoMann]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 5:09pm

"The argument that 'they've been working on it for a long time now' has no correlation to the quality of the final product."

it doesn't have a correlation but that just because they've been working on it for a long time doesn't mean its not gonna be good either.

Of course not! I don't think anyone would say that the ten years spent on A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder hurt the show. My response was directly dictated by your statement that Dr. Zhivago "is gonna be a huge surprise and be amazing" in part because it's been in the works for a while...

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 5:54pm

"No Hogan, not could...SHOULD. This thread SHOULD hit 1000 posts. We owe it to humanity. This thread... gives LIFE! And since you've been one of the most essential supporters of this thread in the past, in our drive for 1000, how many additional posts can we put you down for? 25? 30?"

It's ALIVE! Every time I think this thread is down for the count and we can all go home a certain "investor" keeps it going for another week.

Posted: 3/25/15 at 5:58pm

Am I the thousandth caller? What do I win?

[mfaye9]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 8:36pm

Rob McClure just posted the following on Facebook:

"Friends, if you haven’t seen “Honeymoon in Vegas” yet – now is the time. Despite tremendous reviews and incredible audience response, ticket sales have not been strong enough to keep the doors open much longer if there is not a quick change. Tony nominations are coming up in just a few short weeks. If we get nominations, it could be a real game changer for our show - but we won’t know unless we make it there. You have the power to help us. All you have to do is buy a ticket and come have a delightful evening at the theatre. It’s worth your time and it’s worth your money. “Vegas” is everything a great musical comedy should be. Please don’t wait. Follow Jack Singer’s lead and “take the leap!” ?#?Jump4Love? Come tonight. Come this week. Already seen it? Come again!"

It's heartbreaking to be honest...

[BroadwayBaby6]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 8:39pm

The chances of the show breaking even on Broadway are not looking good. If they keep the show running a bit longer, however, they extend the chances of a national tour and regional productions. This is the kind of show that could do well with a non-equity national tour (Ghost and Nice Work if You Can Get It are two recent non-equity tours).

Also, producers put money in shows because of personal prestige. Everybody wants to be a producer, even if they end up losing money.

[Pootie2]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 9:01pm

"If they keep the show running a bit longer, however, they extend the chances of a national tour and regional productions. "

Wait, how the heck does that work? Isn't it up to the producers to fund a tour in the first place, regardless of length of Broadway run? Bridges didn't last long but it's going on tour.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 9:31pm

A lot of the Tony voters who are the road presenters don't come in to see things until after the nominations, or at least closer to the nomination date. So the longer they stay open the better chance they have of being seen by those voters. A producer can finance a tour, but if the presenters aren't interested in booking the show, and the odds of them not being interested rise even higher if they didn't even see it, then there's little point to mounting the show for the road.

[Pootie2]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 9:34pm

^Ooh, okay. Thanks for the explanation.

[MadonnaMusical]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 9:41pm

I never weighed in on this show because I didn't have anything to really add to the conversation, but jeezzze that Rob McClure post on Facebook really does break my heart.

I agree with the critics on this one, this show is top notch. The book is soooo solid, the songs are fabulous, some are memorable and the cast is great. This show would have been a HUGE hit if they had spent a little extra money for some SPECTACLE... I hate that tourists require spectacle to go to a Broadway show, but they do... there was a big missed opportunity for a lot of Vegas Razzle dazzle... two vegas chorus girls throughout the show should have been 12... etc. etc. etc.

Otherwise this show is OUTSTANDING!!!! I hope it gets Tony nominations and runs regionally for decades...

[Pootie2]

Posted: 3/25/15 at 9:46pm

"I hate that tourists require spectacle to go to a Broadway show, but they do... there was a big missed opportunity for a lot of Vegas Razzle dazzle... "

I'm not sure tourists travel to Broadway for its expensive shows to capture a piece of Las Vegas via adaptation of a mediocre film, regardless of spectacle. Speaking as a tourist.

Updated On: 3/26/15 at 09:46 PM

[TheatreKid3]

Posted: 3/26/15 at 10:15am

Well, they've waited and thrown money away this long I don't see why they can't wait 4 more weeks. Seems like all that would definitely be in vain now if they were to close up show this close to the nominations.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 3/26/15 at 10:20am

By this point they've defied all logic and any semblance of wise business decisions, so we can just as easily assume the show is going to run as long as Phantom.

[jnb9872]

Posted: 3/26/15 at 10:26am

McClure's post clearly implies to me that the show needs your help to even make it to nominations. Thus, there is stated pressure to get the numbers up, because the grosses are dangerously low (and have been for a long, long time.) There isn't an unlimited fund of money that can be thrown away on this project, and they're at the end of it.

Updated On: 3/26/15 at 10:26 AM

[newintown]

Posted: 3/26/15 at 10:37am

"The chances of the show breaking even on Broadway are not looking good. If they keep the show running a bit longer, however, they extend the chances of a national tour..."

I would think that, after losing what must be many millions of $$ by now, the chance of breaking even is nonexistent, barring some kind of unprecedented miracle.

As for a tour - lots of comparable (and bigger) flops have gone on the road; I have no doubt that Honeymoon will, too, particularly if Danza will commit to at least 6 months.

[LYLS3637]

Posted: 3/26/15 at 10:39am

It really is heart-breaking to read. McClure is truly busting his ass up there-- I hope the show makes it to the nominations and he is rewarded. I've only seen him in this and Chaplin, but he is one of the greatest all-around performers I've ever had the pleasure of seeing.

[Kad]

Posted: 3/26/15 at 10:48am

I think a non-Equity tour is more plausible for this.