#1
Posted: 6/19/10 at 1:34pm
Since the other one got wonky at the end, I thought the discussion should continue here. Commence.
#2
Posted: 6/19/10 at 3:35pm
And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."
#4
Posted: 6/19/10 at 5:02pm
I missed the Mother Nature comment. What was the gist?
And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."
#5
Posted: 6/19/10 at 5:03pm
Sueleen, that's great!
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#6
Posted: 6/19/10 at 5:25pm
If you take a look at the wall of that page, it's actually quite startling to see what some people are willing to publish under their own names.
For instance, an actor named Will MacAdam, who played a supportive party guest in "She-Devil" as well as somebody running in slow motion in the raindrops in "Spiderman 2," had this to say about C Zeta-Jones:
Will MacAdam And weren't we just blessed to have the vulgar cocky cow grace our Great White Way this season. Y'all come back, ya hear?
I mean, I totally get not liking her performance, but how far does the Misogyny Meter have to spike to arrive at "the vulgar cocky cow"?
For instance, an actor named Will MacAdam, who played a supportive party guest in "She-Devil" as well as somebody running in slow motion in the raindrops in "Spiderman 2," had this to say about C Zeta-Jones:
Will MacAdam And weren't we just blessed to have the vulgar cocky cow grace our Great White Way this season. Y'all come back, ya hear?
I mean, I totally get not liking her performance, but how far does the Misogyny Meter have to spike to arrive at "the vulgar cocky cow"?
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#7
Posted: 6/19/10 at 5:33pm
I guess they realized they might actually want to work again in this city.
I'd like to think that they deleted the comments because they realize they were wrong to say it, but sadly your explanation is probably the sole reasoning as they start to get attention for their "campaign".
I'd like to think that they deleted the comments because they realize they were wrong to say it, but sadly your explanation is probably the sole reasoning as they start to get attention for their "campaign".
Like a firework unexploded
Wanting life but never knowing how
Wanting life but never knowing how
#8
Posted: 6/19/10 at 6:02pm
They aren't sorry for a minute that they said it, but they're very VERY sorry they got caught.
It's called the INTERNET. The WORLDWIDE WEB.
Meaning everybody. Get it? All God's chillun'.
All y'all.
We can read your vitriol. That neighborhood coffee-clutch, jealous, petty ranting.
Published. For all to see.
Good luck with that next job! Good luck with your fans!
It's called the INTERNET. The WORLDWIDE WEB.
Meaning everybody. Get it? All God's chillun'.
All y'all.
We can read your vitriol. That neighborhood coffee-clutch, jealous, petty ranting.
Published. For all to see.
Good luck with that next job! Good luck with your fans!
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#9
Posted: 6/19/10 at 6:18pm
We can read your vitriol. That neighborhood coffee-clutch, jealous, petty ranting.
And we thank you for it!
And we thank you for it!
#10
Posted: 6/19/10 at 6:33pm
Hunter Foster doesn't stand a chance against this guy.
Updated On: 6/19/10 at 06:33 PM
#11
Posted: 6/19/10 at 8:12pm
I think this is absurd. So if he gets a main role in a successful movie he shouldn't be allowed to win because he's from broadway? That's absurd.I guess Kristin Chenoweth should just give back her Emmy because she was on broadway and Lea Michele has no business being on TV because she was on broadway too.
#12
Posted: 6/19/10 at 8:24pm
Here's the link to the original thread, for those not keeping score.
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?thread=1017807&dt=598&boardid=1
https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?thread=1017807&dt=598&boardid=1
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#13
Posted: 6/19/10 at 8:41pm
Why did the original thread stop at 24?
I smell conspiracy!!
I smell conspiracy!!
"Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in the world they've been given than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration. It's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing.”
~ Muhammad Ali
#14
Posted: 6/19/10 at 8:49pm
I wonder if it was a technical problem or maybe something that could've been fixed, but won't be... what's funny is you can see more replies if you hit "reply," but not by refreshing.
"This thread reads like a series of White House memos." — Mister Matt
#15
Posted: 6/19/10 at 10:48pm
Donna Lynne Champlin's in the group, too. She was last on Broadway as Pirelli in the 2005 Sweeney Todd revival. She posted in one of the discussion forums, and it was at least the kind of coherent argument that would have made Mr. Foster and Ms. Cody seem a little less bitter: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/topic.php?uid=102274489824156&topic=7.
I'm a little sad that she's joined the bandwagon for calling the telecast a disaster (I personally didn't think it was any worse than last year, and that the show made a mediocre Broadway season seem a little more palatable), but she at least was more classy with her comments.
I just want to know where Hunter's Facebook group was as the creative awards were pushed more and more to the wayside. Or if they realize that there are bigger causes to support in this day and age (like, I don't know, gay marriage for instance?). I've lost a lot of respect for the performers that have used this to vent their bitter, petty thoughts.
I'm a little sad that she's joined the bandwagon for calling the telecast a disaster (I personally didn't think it was any worse than last year, and that the show made a mediocre Broadway season seem a little more palatable), but she at least was more classy with her comments.
I just want to know where Hunter's Facebook group was as the creative awards were pushed more and more to the wayside. Or if they realize that there are bigger causes to support in this day and age (like, I don't know, gay marriage for instance?). I've lost a lot of respect for the performers that have used this to vent their bitter, petty thoughts.
Merrily we roll along, roll along...
#16
Posted: 6/19/10 at 11:42pm
It's "coffee klatch," right?
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#17
Posted: 6/19/10 at 11:53pm
Donna's 5 points were wonderful. She pointed out that there is a battle between making the Tonys about excellence in American Theatre (as long as it's on Broadway) vs. making the Tonys a commercial for Broadway overall.
"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert
#18
Posted: 6/19/10 at 11:58pm
The funniest thread running through this thing is the very notion that the MOST AMPED UP COMMERCIAL THEATER IN THE WORLD is where, by default, you're going to find artistic excellence.
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#19
Posted: 6/20/10 at 12:23am
We're not sorry, not a thread
-Benjamin
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#20
Posted: 6/20/10 at 12:26am
I'm glad we have two threads on this now.
"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert
#22
Posted: 6/20/10 at 12:59am
I'm so glad to see that the welcoming, inclusive Broadway family is so welcoming and inclusive... except when it comes time for them to get the awards.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#23
Posted: 6/20/10 at 5:52am
This has got to be my favourite comment on the FB group so far:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=102274489824156&v=wall&story_fbid=103096233075315
Richie Abanes This year's TONY AWARDS were not the TONY AWARDS. They were THE OSCARS. And it made me sick.
There was a time when Broadway made stars and it was the rare event that anyone saw a "star" (yuck) on stage. Now you almost can't go see a show WITHOUT seeing a "star." If I want to see a celebrity, I'll go to the movies, thank you very much, or watch Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood.
Given the current line-up of of celebrities on stage in NYC, I think they should just shoot the production in a day, drop in a movie screen each night at 8pm, and play the film—then all the actors can just stay home (which I really wish they would do).
OPEN REQUEST: Dear Denzel, Katherine, Christopher, Katie, Harry Potter, and all of you other celebrities getting set to pollute NYC stages this year and next year—go away.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=102274489824156&v=wall&story_fbid=103096233075315
Richie Abanes This year's TONY AWARDS were not the TONY AWARDS. They were THE OSCARS. And it made me sick.
There was a time when Broadway made stars and it was the rare event that anyone saw a "star" (yuck) on stage. Now you almost can't go see a show WITHOUT seeing a "star." If I want to see a celebrity, I'll go to the movies, thank you very much, or watch Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood.
Given the current line-up of of celebrities on stage in NYC, I think they should just shoot the production in a day, drop in a movie screen each night at 8pm, and play the film—then all the actors can just stay home (which I really wish they would do).
OPEN REQUEST: Dear Denzel, Katherine, Christopher, Katie, Harry Potter, and all of you other celebrities getting set to pollute NYC stages this year and next year—go away.
Updated On: 6/20/10 at 05:52 AM
#24
Posted: 6/20/10 at 8:53am
This may have already been mentioned in the other threads...so excuse the blunder. But...movie stars appearing and presenting on the Tony's is the best advertisment for Broadway. The ratings have not been that great in past years. If there were just Broadway actors appearing...America would not watch the telecast and the ratings would be dismal. No ratings, no Tony telecast, no tourists interested in buying tickets to the shows.
#25
Posted: 6/20/10 at 9:20am
I think it's a big misconception that the Broadway stars of the Golden Age were strictly theatre actors. There were definitely a few who didn't cross over or made only one or two rare appearances.
Alfred Lunt made a name for himself in several films, during his rise to stardom on the stage, even scoring a Best Actor Oscar nomination in 1931. Then he devoted his life to theatre after that. No more films, but those movies at least helped to put him on the map. He did win an Emmy for Best Actor in the '60s as well.
Lynne Fontanne also scored an Oscar nomination in 1931 for the same movie ("The Guardsman"). She made even fewer film appearances than her husband. But Hollywood was definitely on her resume as well.
Ethel Merman and Ginger Rogers both appeared in "Girl Crazy" on Broadway which launched their film careers. Ginger became a megastar in Hollywood, but Ethel was also a bona fide movie star, making a successful string of films in the 1930s, and two major appearances in the '50s (Call Me Madam and There's No Business Like Show Business), plus a star turn in the '60s in the box office smash, It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.
Katharine Cornell comes to mind as a Broadway star who never made a film, other than to appear as "herself" in Stage Door Canteen. Alfred Drake barely graced Hollywood as well.
Mary Martin made few films, but she did a string of them in the early '40s. And she made a big splash on TV recreating Peter Pan for several airings.
Robert Preston and Rex Harrison were both stage actors turned movie stars before they played their biggest Broadway roles in The Music Man and My Fair Lady.
Laurette Taylor (arguably the most influential stage actress ever to appear on Broadway) starred in silent films of the mid 1920s, including Peg O' My Heart.
The Barrymores all had hugely succesful film careers. Lionel and Ethel both won Oscars, and their Hollywood careers spanned decades. John was one of the biggest silent film stars in history.
So I don't really know where these "pure" theatre actors are. They never existed in the Golden Age, really. They were always crossing over into film, and later, TV.
HOW DARE THEY?!?!
Alfred Lunt made a name for himself in several films, during his rise to stardom on the stage, even scoring a Best Actor Oscar nomination in 1931. Then he devoted his life to theatre after that. No more films, but those movies at least helped to put him on the map. He did win an Emmy for Best Actor in the '60s as well.
Lynne Fontanne also scored an Oscar nomination in 1931 for the same movie ("The Guardsman"). She made even fewer film appearances than her husband. But Hollywood was definitely on her resume as well.
Ethel Merman and Ginger Rogers both appeared in "Girl Crazy" on Broadway which launched their film careers. Ginger became a megastar in Hollywood, but Ethel was also a bona fide movie star, making a successful string of films in the 1930s, and two major appearances in the '50s (Call Me Madam and There's No Business Like Show Business), plus a star turn in the '60s in the box office smash, It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.
Katharine Cornell comes to mind as a Broadway star who never made a film, other than to appear as "herself" in Stage Door Canteen. Alfred Drake barely graced Hollywood as well.
Mary Martin made few films, but she did a string of them in the early '40s. And she made a big splash on TV recreating Peter Pan for several airings.
Robert Preston and Rex Harrison were both stage actors turned movie stars before they played their biggest Broadway roles in The Music Man and My Fair Lady.
Laurette Taylor (arguably the most influential stage actress ever to appear on Broadway) starred in silent films of the mid 1920s, including Peg O' My Heart.
The Barrymores all had hugely succesful film careers. Lionel and Ethel both won Oscars, and their Hollywood careers spanned decades. John was one of the biggest silent film stars in history.
So I don't really know where these "pure" theatre actors are. They never existed in the Golden Age, really. They were always crossing over into film, and later, TV.
HOW DARE THEY?!?!
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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