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Liam Pearce (How To Dance In Ohio) was robbed of a Featured Actor nom

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1. lacking inspiration or excitement; dull.

Yes, that's obvious, but if you want to communicate with others (presumably why you're here) you need to use words correctly, that say want you actually mean.



My point, however, was ..that thats the very reason many of us don't like it. It's pedestrian.

There are some threads I just shouldn't step into. Why do I punish myself?

I really wanted Chip Zien to get his first ever Tony nomination. All I'm saying is there's no way Brian D'arcy James is going to win this season (his show was a limited run I believe) and he already had four nominations. Chip really deserves something. He's kind of an icon to Broadway fans. And it feels like a cosmic insult, since Brian won a Grammy and got a Tony nom for Into the Woods and Chip Zien got snubbed then too.

But I guess I understand ignoring Harmony at the Tonys. I liked it, but I have no trouble admitting it was a flawed and doomed show.

ColorTheHours048 said: "Pretty weird hill to climb atop and then loudly proclaim you’re dying on."

May your bottom forever be itchy.

KarenValentine'sheadband said: "Chip from Harmony and Harmony the musical owns this thread. Sadly."

I'm unsure as to the intention behind this message. I will say, as much as I personally enjoyed Harmony and thought Chip was phenomenal and definitely deserved a nomination over a handful of people, and as much as I would have loved to see Chip nominated, I do completely understand the whole ignoring Harmony thing. It has a lot of structural problems, the score really isn't for everybody and some parts are even objectively bad, other than Chip there were no real standout performances. It didn't have a starry name, it didn't have spectacle, it had a story nobody really wanted to see, it had a score nobody cared about, it was basically destined to fail.

This is my way of addressing both ways your message could be taken:

Either you meant "Harmony sucks, why do all these people care so much about it not getting nominations?"

Or you meant "Harmony was so good, it's so sad how it got snubbed and all these people seem to be noticing it"

Either way I agree with you somehow

LuckyDipster said: "ColorTheHours048 said: "Pretty weird hill to climb atop and then loudly proclaim you’re dying on."

May your bottom forever be itchy."

oh my goodness- thank you for that laugh this morning bwahahaha

Updated On: 5/1/24 at 11:35 AM

KarenValentine'sheadband said: "

"KarenValentine'sheadband said: "Chip from Harmony and Harmony the musical owns this thread. Sadly."

The threadis about who do people think was "robbed." I said Chip and the show. Not sure how else I could say it? I loved the score, lighting, costume, scenicdesign and Chip. That's five potential noms. I think Eddie getting the nod for mugging to the audience is ridiculous."

I just thought it could be taken either as "why is everybody is talking about Chip", which is true or as "I agree with everybody talking about Chip." I think he deserved a nomination. I enjoyed the show very much. But yeah I stand by everything I said.

I'm not sure I would say Eddie Redmayne was just "mugging at the audience", though there certainly is a lot of that. It was nowhere near as subtle or powerful as Chip, that much I can definitely agree on.

KarenValentine'sheadband said: "Okay. I stand by everything I said too."

I didn't mean to fight. I apologize. I agree with your perspective for the most part anyways. I think that Eddie really didn't deserve a nomination on account of the fact he already has a Tony and Chip doesn't have even one nomination.

dramamama611 said: "Well, that's a terrible reason to nominate (or not nominate) anyone. This isn't little league where everyone gets a trophy."

That would be true if that were what I was suggesting. And, really, it does feel like little league when some things are nominated. Like, tell me why two best featured actor slots in 2017 were Falsettos when basically everybody knew that an already closed three month run of a show the same season as that huge Dolly revival wasn't going to win anything. It's because the nomination is an acknowledgement of great work. When somebody puts in as much great work over and over as Chip does, it feels a little bit unfair that people like James Corden have won a Tony with one real role and meanwhile Chip does show after show and almost always gives an exceptional performance and gets nothing. It's not uncommon for the committee to not nominate or award people who already have a ton of awards. Other awards shows certainly do this more, but the Tonys are really all about whose career and what show is going to benefit the most from the award every bit as much as they are about the quality of the aspects awarded. Tell me right now that Avenue Q is a better musical with a better book and score than Wicked. I love both shows, but Wicked is clearly a better show. Avenue Q deserved that award though. Wicked didn't need that to run for twenty years. Do you see what I'm saying? Eddie Redmayne doesn't need another nomination. Chip has been at it so long that I honestly think he does need a nomination. I'm not saying that every actor should just get a nomination for being on Broadway at all, but people like Chip who have had long, incredible careers deserve some kind of honor. No way he's gonna win. He might get a lifetime achievement award if he lives ten more years. But a nomination would have been just great.

KarenValentine'sheadband said: "No apologies needed. No fighting from me. I reaffirming my point as you are. I'm glad we can agree. I saw Cabaretin London and thought he was mugging back then."

I'm not saying he's not mugging. Just that there is a bit more to his performance than that. I heard he got drastically better on Broadway, though admittedly I have not seen it since it transferred. Broadway is much more expensive. I definitely think that, between him and Chip, I'd rather Chip be nominated. But really I'd rather Chip be nominated over Brian D'Arcy James, since he basically just got a nomination out of obligation.