Were they afraid Jeremy wouldn't do the art run if he knew he had NO chance of going with the production to Broadway? It just seems kind of foolish, because not even Matt can make the Lunt Fontanne a completely sold out house. I think they would've been fine with just Kelsey. Ugh. So many emotions.
I was there Friday night, and the man said "fired." With no humor, irony or sarcasm.
No air quotes around the word: "fired."
He said FIRED.
And then he went on to sing an absolutely gorgeous song from the score that was written by Michael Korie and Scott Frankel before they were, you know, FIRED too.
It was one of the most deliciously bitchy thing I've ever seen a straight man do. (So there, Harvey Weinstein!)
And he sang the song beautifully too.
It kills me that I don't live in New York to witness these things.
But having Pal Joey describe them is the next best thing.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
But people here know better than Jeremy Jordan.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/2/14
Wish there was a recording of Jeremy singing the Frankel and Korie song. I tried to get a hold of sheet music for the Frankel and Korie score and my publishing friend said the producers or something own it. I want sheet music so desparately for the score. Was Jeremy involved with FN when they were using the Frankel and Korie score?
It kills me that I don't live in New York to witness these things.
ME TOO.
"Wish there was a recording of Jeremy singing the Frankel and Korie song. I tried to get a hold of sheet music for the Frankel and Korie score and my publishing friend said the producers or something own it. I want sheet music so desparately for the score. Was Jeremy involved with FN when they were using the Frankel and Korie score?"
Nope. As Musto said, he just prefaced the song by saying he thought it would be "fun" to create a reunion for the "lost boys" of Neverland...meaning himself, Michael Korie and Scott Frankel, "lost" because they had been fired.
Michael McGrath is one of those lost boys too. He was so good at A.R.T.
"It was one of the most deliciously bitchy thing I've ever seen a straight man do. (So there, Harvey Weinstein!)"
Would have been interesting to see what he would have said if he wasn't so at peace with it.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/1/14
McGrath was already contracted to On the Twentieth Century when he accepted the Finding Neverland job. He was a replacement for Roger Bart, who was fired in rehearsals.
Okay, Jordan used the word "fired," but he was never contracted for the Broadway run. How can you be fired from a job you didn't have?
"McGrath was already contracted to On the Twentieth Century when he accepted the Finding Neverland job. He was a replacement for Roger Bart, who was fired in rehearsals.
Okay, Jordan used the word "fired," but he was never contracted for the Broadway run. How can you be fired from a job you didn't have?"
Perception is perception is perception. Jeremy did agree in SF when an audience said (re: FN) he had been "screwed " over. That "fired" FN song is gorgeous.
On a side note: despite the show getting mixed reviews at best, I don't see how being in FN is hurting Matt Morrison at all.
McGrath was already contracted to On the Twentieth Century when he accepted the Finding Neverland job. He was a replacement for Roger Bart, who was fired in rehearsals.
I knew the part about replacing Roger Bart, but is it definite about him being contracted to On the Twentieth Century before he did FN in Camb? The reason I'm asking is he posted a subtweet at the time Kelsey Grammar was announced that didn't sound at all like he'd been sure he wasn't playing Froman. BUT, it might have been the same time Morrison was announced -- I don't remember -- so maybe McGrath's subtweet was not about himself but about Jordan.
I hope it's true. It's a happier thing that the other possibility (McGrath not knowing, and hoping to play Frohman.)
I was at one of Jeremys shows in SF and that part of the show, IMO, the way everything was phrased and the way he spoke when he talked about, it seemed very clear to me that they must have been leading him on and that he was left to believe there was actually a chance for him to continue on with the show. He seemed very honest about, it didn't seem like he was exaggerating for a sense of a good story or anything, it seemed truthful to me.
why was Roger Bart fired?
"why was Roger Bart fired?"
None of our business.
""why was Roger Bart fired?"
None of our business."
LMFAO!!!! Sweetheart, almost everything we talk about on this message board is none of our business
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Everybody here knows all this insidery stuff about contracts and promises. Until it turns out to be wrong.
I think Bart was "fired" for having an "artistic" opinion.
I think Jordan was "fired" for being too short.
Swing Joined: 4/30/08
I was there on Friday night too and was struck by how beautiful the song was Jeremy performed from the discarded version of Finding Neverland. Which was I'm certain was the point he was trying to make. Really it seems things worked out best for Mr. Jordan as he escaped being a part of the polarizing Broadway production of Finding Neverland and can move on to CBS and Supergirl. Wishing him continued success!
Broadway Star Joined: 4/20/15
I guess the question is would the show have been as "polarizing" if Jordan had been cast.
It seems that this show draws a lot disdain, but the convo frequently tends to turn more toward the producer, and Morrison's casting, than it does the show itself.
Now the show is being brought up again, by way of Jordan's comments. And it's being painted, yet again, as a cruddy show.
So why all this concern for this guy if the show is so bad? All the Jeremy lovers out there should be in ecstasy that he didn't come to Broadway with it. So should he.
If it really is that bad, that is (which box office numbers don't seem to suggest).
Furthermore, why would he have to find "peace" in not being cast if it was such a terrible show. And why would he want his name tied to it? Or lament not being cast?
I don't think some people really find it to be such a bad show as much as they just don't like its producer or the actor who this producer decided to go with. If they did, I don't think we would still be talking about it.
This whole, 'Well it's a lousy show anyway…' just seems to be a way of expressing disdain for the peripherals that have surrounded the show.
Jordan certainly hasn't taken that attitude anyway it seems. He probably considered it a good show that he wanted to perform. And he was a big part of it. Maybe he's bummed he didn't get the chance to take it to Broadway. Perhaps he did know from the get go that the producers had someone else they were considering. But it sure doesn't sound like Jordan has ill feelings about the show itself.
It's his defenders (and those who don't like the producer) who are taking it in that direction it seems.
I believe without a doubt that Jeremy would have been nominated if he had went to Broadway. The complete snubbing of FN was purely political and the controversy with Jordan only fueled that. Finding Neverland isn't a great show but it is nowhere near the worst thing to hit Broadway.
Swing Joined: 4/12/14
for anyone that has gone to see this new act what other songs has he done ?!
Broadway Star Joined: 4/20/15
"I believe without a doubt that Jeremy would have been nominated if he had went to Broadway. The complete snubbing of FN was purely political and the controversy with Jordan only fueled that. Finding Neverland isn't a great show but it is nowhere near the worst thing to hit Broadway. "
I agree. I certainly wouldn't consider it the best show I've ever seen. But I hardly walked out of the theater disappointed. In fact, I found it enjoyable. And I thought the performances were quite good, as was the staging. The music wasn't as memorable as those from many shows I've seen, but I agree that it wasn't as bad as it's being made out to be. I mean, I know people have their opinions, and what some people like doesn't always resonate with others. But there seems to be a level of disdain for this show that seems almost extreme. And I guest that's why I wonder where exactly it's coming from.
It's cause people would rather diss Harvey than judge a show on it's artistic merit. I'm not saying FN should have been nominated for many tonys, but it was pretty apparent on tony morning that it had been snubbed for the wrong reasons.
Most of the previews and reviews on here didn't have anything good to say about it always bringing it back to Harvey. Not sure how he is relevant to the actual product of the show, but by the comments on here, you would have thought Finding Neverland was a One Man show starring Harvey. The majority of the professional reviews were taking shots at harvey also instead of talking about the show itself.
It's funny how people always hate on Riedel for attacking people in his column, yet a good amount of people on here were doing the exact same thing he was doing.
And sure you can say "Oh Harvey deserved it. He's a terrible person." But at the end of the day, the hard working actors got the crap end of the stick and they didn't deserve that.
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