Lillias White Calling Out Deaf Audience Member For Using CC Device — Page 5

Sutton Ross said: "If you need to use your phone then go outside at intermission with the smokers BECAUSE THIS IS CLEARLY AN ADDICTION . Then there’s no confusion if someone is using an assist device.

100%. So sick of the bullsh*t excuses. And when people mention Yondr pouches, people clutch their cell phones and run away screaming. Yes, it takes a little longer but tough sh*t. A penis in a Broadway production should not be the only reason why they are used. Producers are pathetic and weak. Enough."

Wait a minute - now people are required to put their penises in a Yondr pouch? Ouch.

Yea, cell phones aren’t going anywhere. A number of theaters, including the Kerr, provide free wifi since cell service inside can be terrible.

Sutton Ross said: ""

Great response!

gibsons2 said: "Sutton Ross said: ""

Great response!"

Hmmm, I'm not sure if that is a great response.

Here's where a little humility can help. Even if she feels wronged by all the hate messages and the double standard, could she not have at least said, sorry for assuming Sammatha was recording the performance?

Not feeling sorry about making a false assumption about someone with disability is the problem she was called out for in the first place.

She is also asking the "disabled community" to figure this out with the theaters, as if she was not part of it. The disabled community and theaters have figured it out, with the closed captioning device. She could, and could've encouraged other performers to, be part of the solutions, rather than walking away.

Updated On: 10/20/22 at 01:34 PM

TaffyDavenport said: "I totally agree with her, but the "I AM NOT SORRY" is re-infuriating the mob."

Which pretty much proves her statement that she owes the mob no apology or humility. Production should've done much better job protecting her from violence threats and hate she received online. Theater community showed its true colors in this case.

Updated On: 10/20/22 at 01:49 PM

TaffyDavenport said: "From a P.R. standpoint, she definitely should have publicly apologized, if for nothing less than to de-escalate the situation with the haters. I believe that post was from Facebook, but it must have been taken down. Obviously, though, screenshots don't forget."

I disagree. She owes public and especially racist haters no apology. I'm sure she's sorted this with Samantha privately. Nobodys entitled to have any details about it. Good on her for standing her ground and revealing people's true feelings.

Verywell, that was very well played!

White should not have received threats or racial slurs thrown at her for what she did. I personally did not see any of that, but I’ll take people’s words for it that she experienced that, and it’s insane that that would be the response to her actions.



However for something to be a double standard, the same thing had to have occurred. Patti LuPone did not call out a disabled person for using a device to make theater more accessible. And most people just learned days ago that she called out a hired photographer. And for what it’s worth, I think what Patti LuPone did was downright idiotic, like many things Patti LuPone does.



But Lillias White did something wrong and has something to apologize for as well. Whether she stopped the show or not, she made a disabled person feel uncomfortable for doing nothing but trying to enjoy the show. Disabled people are marginalized as well, ESPECIALLY in theater. Would it hurt White to have some grace and say that?


I honestly didn’t think White should catch heat for this before, but this response deserves some. It’s REALLY bad.

BroadwayGirl107 said: "But Lillias White did something wrong and has something to apologize for as well. Whether she stopped the show or not, she made a disabled person feel uncomfortable for doing nothing but trying to enjoy the show. Disabled people are marginalized as well, ESPECIALLY in theater. Would it hurt White to have some grace and say that?
I honestly didn’t think White should catch heat for this before, but this response deserves some. It’s REALLY bad."

But how in the world do you know that she didn't do it privately? And if she did, why do you think that you or anyone else entitled to this information? It's baffling that so many people feel they are entitled to Lilia's public apology. Being hard of hearing is an invisible disability, especially in the dark theater. How in the world Lilias could have known that the person is not just sitting with her phone on? What about actors feelings, they are being constantly recorded and photographed by idiots who wouldn't even bother to turn the flash off? What would be graceful for the Hadestown production and Samantha herself to reiterate what really has happened and not just once, as she did in that long lost Tweet. At this point, every article that's being posted based on that initial Instagram video and tweet is a slander.

Updated On: 10/20/22 at 03:08 PM

gibsons2 said: "

But how in the world do you know that she didn't do it privately? And if she did, why do you think that you or anyone else entitled to this information? It's baffling that so many people feel they are entitled to Lilia's public apology. Being hard of hearing is an invisible disability, especially in the dark theater. How in the world Lilias could have known that the person is not just sitting with her phone on? What about actors feelings, they are being constantly recorded and photographed by idiots who wouldn't even bother to turn the flash off? What would be graceful for the Hadestown production and Samantha herself to reiterate what really has happened and not just once, as she did in that long lost Tweet. At this point, every article that's being posted based on that initial Instagram video and tweet is a slander."



Something about the words “I AM NOT SORRY” in all caps would suggest that she is, in fact, not sorry.



People realize that Lillias White could have been positively intentioned and meant ZERO harm but still have caused some, and therefore have something to apologize for…right? If you crashed your car because of bad street signs and hurt someone, would you get out and say “I am not sorry, the signs in that street were bad” or “I am so sorry, it was an accident.” Are people seriously this allergic to acknowledging that harm can be apologized for EVEN when it wasn’t intentional?

BroadwayGirl107 said: "gibsons2 said: "

But how in the world do you know that she didn't do it privately? And if she did, why do you think that you or anyone else entitled to this information? It's baffling that so many people feel they are entitled to Lilia's public apology. Being hard of hearing is an invisible disability, especially in the dark theater. How in the world Lilias could have known that the person is not just sitting with her phone on? What about actors feelings, they are being constantly recorded and photographed by idiots who wouldn't even bother to turn the flash off? What would be graceful for the Hadestown production and Samantha herself to reiterate what really has happened and not just once, as she did in that long lost Tweet. At this point, every article that's being posted based on that initial Instagram video and tweet is a slander."



Something about the words “I AM NOT SORRY” in all caps would suggest that she is, in fact, not sorry.



People realize that Lillias White could have been positively intentioned and meant ZERO harm but still have caused some, and therefore have something to apologize for…right? If you crashed your car because of bad street signs and hurt someone, would you get out and say “I am not sorry, the signs in that street were bad” or “I am so sorry, it was an accident.” Are people seriously this allergic to acknowledging that harm can be apologized for EVEN when it wasn’t intentional?

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Something tells me that after being called an n-word who should be shot, Lilias doesn't feel like being gracious in public. Making her a punching bag for racists hopefully will have its consequences